To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (343083 ) 7/13/2007 2:06:47 PM From: tejek Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1577033 Ted, > Doctors complain they are going broke but when you look a little deeper you find most are like Frist with tons of money in real estate and other ventures. You could say the same thing about lawyers, professors, investment bankers, union leaders, and of course politicians who vote themselves a raise. Nothing unique to doctors there. Do you not see how you try to dilute the exchange? We were talking about a national health program and doctors. Anything not pertaining to either of those two subjects must be considered a strawman. If you can't defend your position, then admit it and move on.> If a doctor like Frist can let his ideology influence him in a life or death matter like he did with Schiavo, what makes you think the same thing would not happen with a lesser issue like a national health program? Two words: Jocelyn Elders. Steve, what have you done with Ten....stop posting on his tag: "In 1994, she was invited to speak at a United Nations conference on AIDS. She was asked whether it would be appropriate to promote masturbation as a means of preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity, and she replied, "I think that it is part of human sexuality, and perhaps it should be taught." This remark caused great controversy, especially among conservative Christian groups and right wing interests in the United States. President Clinton asked for her resignation." She was not promoting an ideology she was stating scientific fact.......the majority of all males in this country masterbate like banchees once they hit puberty. I know because I was one of them. Just because you did not does not mean you were the norm. Unfortunately, the religious right in this country can't handle scientific fact....that's why they make things up like creationism. It makes everything so very'purrrtty'.......not dirty like too much jism on the bed sheets.