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To: Rambi who wrote (211946)	7/13/2007 3:04:26 PM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793989

He differentiates between isolationism and non-intervention, which seems to be how he defines himself Yes, yes, I've read this excuse several times on this thread. It is a distinction without meaning.

To: Rambi who wrote (211946)	7/13/2007 3:08:53 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793989

It does not we that we isolate ourselves; Don't you just hate websites that lack a copy editor?

To: Rambi who wrote (211946)	7/13/2007 6:21:35 PM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793989

re: definitions >>"He (R. Paul) differentiates between isolationism and non-intervention, which seems to be how he defines himself."<< He's correct in that differentiation, and also correct in defining trade under the auspices of the WTO and like organizations as "managed, not free, trade" (his own terminology). However, he equates the bugaboo of managed trade as tantamount to the EU ruling Capitol Hill. The gist I get from his ronpaullibrary.com and ronpaul2008.com sites is that he envisions the world marketplace as a sort of ... "farmers' market" where you simply walk down the street and pay Joey Bushelobeets two bucks for his basket o' goods. That worked reasonably well in the past -- like the Molasses/Rum/Slaves triangle a few years ago. Myopic in this millenium, IMO. The best "free trade" marketplace is ... a managed one. That is, if one agrees that a marketplace with one/few manager(s) is more efficient than being overseen by 180 different, independent managers.

To: Rambi who wrote (211946)	7/13/2007 9:16:22 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Respond to of 793989

Noninterventionism is not isolationism. Nonintervention simply means America does not interfere militarily, financially, or covertly in the internal affairs of other nations. It does not we that we isolate ourselves; on the contrary, our founders advocated open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations. We have moved so far from "nonintervention" that we don't even realize that what we are now doing today is nation building. Bush in one of his first debates clearly stated that he did not favor nation building. Oh how far our nation has strayed. steve