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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (103131)7/16/2007 7:49:48 AM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
"tithable...parish...vestrymen" He's talking about Church activity.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (103131)7/16/2007 9:10:09 AM
From: Peter O'Brien  Respond to of 173976
 
it sounds like purely LOCAL control to me:

"This assessment is levied and administered by twelve persons in each parish, called vestrymen, originally chosen by the housekeepers of the parish, but afterwards filling vacancies in their own body by their own choice. These are usually the most discreet farmers, so distributed through their parish, that every part of it may be under the immediate eye of some one of them. They are well acquainted with the details and œconomy of private life, and they find sufficient inducements to execute their charge well, in their philanthropy, in the approbation of their neighbours, and the distinction which that gives them."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (103131)7/16/2007 9:16:42 AM
From: Peter O'Brien  Respond to of 173976
 
Thomas Jefferson on the "General Welfare" clause:

Our tenet ever was, and, indeed, it is almost the only
landmark which now divides the federalists from the
republicans, that Congress has not unlimited powers to
provide for the general welfare, but were to those
specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they
should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not
place under their action; consequently, that the specification
of powers is a limitation of the purposes for which they may
raise money.

Letter from Thomas Jefferson to Albert Gallatin (June 16,
1817), in 10 WRITINGS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON at 90, 91 (Paul
Leicester Ford ed., 1899) quoted in Roger Pilon, Freedom,
Responsibility, and the Constitution: On Recovering Our
Founding Principles, 68 Notre Dame L. Rev. 507, 530.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (103131)7/16/2007 10:40:50 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 173976
 
gee I thought you said Jefferson wasn't a Christian. He's talking about charity, not robbery



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (103131)7/16/2007 10:43:03 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 173976
 
President James Madison, the father of the Constitution, had the answer. He said: "Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." Davey Crockett, as a member of Congress, said, "We have the right, as individuals, to give as much money as we please to charity, but as members of Congress, we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money."