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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (39699)	7/17/2007 12:59:47 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541302

The history of leftist tyranny in the 20th century was pretty horrifying, and most of it was done in the name of broader leftist principles that were translated into totalitarian regimes. Both sides are capable of gross extremism when ideological zeal trumps common sense and a sense of decency. And both sides have been down that road more than once. The National Review crowd is very self-selecting; I'm not sure what a comparable audience on the left would be today, but it would start with the people who shriek about evil government-corporate conspiracies running the universe and deteriorate from there, no doubt. FWIW, there are only a billion Muslims in the world, not three. And declaring war on the whole bunch is as foolish as the lefties who want to eradicate capitalism, even while it's the driving force for far more people on the planet than Islam.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (39699)	7/17/2007 1:33:01 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 541302

FWIW communists (for example) have proven themselves pretty dangerous. I think there is horrible language, cruel language, on both of the extremes. The folks who want the capitalists to die, are just as bad as folks who define people they don't agree with as ant-American, and mark them for extermination. I think we all know the extremes when we see them, and you know them partly because at the extremes the folks believe in "rough justice", without ever (seeming) to realize that rough "justice" has a way of morphing in to a power structure basically killing anyone that doesn't agree with the power structure- and that happens at the extremes of both left and right. I think moderates instinctively realize that, even if they don't always think it out.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (39699)	7/17/2007 1:58:32 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541302

Most RWers don't see recycled water bottles as the dangerous ideas of the left. They see weakened defense, open borders, proliferation of government programs, and income distribution as being the threatening ideas. Reasonable people understand that there has to be a balance between these two ideologies for a healthy economy and people. If someone believes that only one side holds the correct answers and the "other guy" is evil, he has lost his ability to be effective or think as rationally- but we have seen this happening a lot in the last few years.