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To: Lou Weed who wrote (236751)7/18/2007 12:49:21 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
But it IS the issue.....

No, you have just offered a classic false dichotomy, based on a falsified history. Come on, what other countries have won wars then given back the land won, especially in defensive wars? Let's have some names and dates.

What about the peace plan proposed by the Arab league at their summit in Beirut 2002?

What about it? Their proposal was the Israel withdraw to the Green Line BEFORE even starting negotiations, and that maybe some sort of "normalization", not normal normal relations mind you, but something that could be called "normalization" would follow. But they wouldn't exert themselves to actually meet with any (shudder) Israelis to talk about it, so the Israelis had to read it in the paper. And oh yes, the Israelis had to extend the "right of return" to 4 or 5 million Palestinians into Israel proper.

Some offer. Give up everything we claim we want first, then we'll meet with you. And then in case you're still standing, we'll demand some more.



To: Lou Weed who wrote (236751)7/18/2007 1:59:32 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I think her belief is accurate. Arabs don't want a non-Muslim nation in Arabia, much less a jewish nation, and Arabs will fight against its existence, forever. They don't want peace, they want Israel removed. The question I wonder about is why do the crazy Israelis want to live in a region surrounded by people that hate and want to kill them when they can live in the USA where their diversity is appreciated?