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To: neolib who wrote (236787)	7/17/2007 6:27:22 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 281500

that's a really good way of putting the whole thing

To: neolib who wrote (236787)	7/17/2007 10:22:18 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Imagine a starving man under a fruit tree with a very tempting piece of fruit too high to jump and reach. There is a ladder standing nearby, yet the man just wears himself out jumping and coming up short. That is what the Pals have been doing all these years. Sadly, I agree with your fine post.

To: neolib who wrote (236787)	7/18/2007 5:35:02 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Re: Imagine a starving man under a fruit tree with a very tempting piece of fruit too high to jump and reach. There is a ladder standing nearby, yet the man just wears himself out jumping and coming up short. That is what the Pals have been doing all these years. Probably not the best analogy, as they WANT to be martyrs. In this same analogy, I proffer that they would most likely blow the tree up along with themselves to gain fruit in allah's world. We are dealing with mental midgets here.....the illiteracy rate in the territories is what, 70%? And the sad fact of the matter is that I am sure many here would blame this too on Israel.

To: neolib who wrote (236787)	7/19/2007 12:42:21 AM
From: c.hinton	Respond to of 281500

Story of Tantalus Tantalus is known for having been welcomed to Zeus' table in Olympus, like Ixion. There he too misbehaved, stole ambrosia, brought it back to his people,[6] and revealed the secrets of the gods[7]. Tantalus offered up his son, Pelops, as a sacrifice to the gods. He cut Pelops up, boiled him, and served him up as food for the gods. The gods were said to be aware of his plan for their feast, so they didn't touch the offering; only Demeter, distraught by the loss of her daughter, Persephone, "did not realize what it was" and ate part of the boy's shoulder. Fate, ordered by Zeus, brought the boy to life again (she collected the parts of the body and boiled them in a sacred cauldron), rebuilding his shoulder with one wrought of ivory made by Hephaestos and presented by Demeter. The revived Pelops was kidnapped by Poseidon and taken to Olympus to be the god's eromenos. Later, Zeus threw Pelops out of Olympus due to his anger at Tantalus. The Greeks of classical times claimed to be horrified by Tantalus' doings; cannibalism, human sacrifice and parricide were atrocities and taboo. Tantalus was the founder of the cursed House of Atreus in which variations on these atrocities continued. Misfortunes also occurred as a result of these acts, making the house the subject of many Greek Tragedies. Tantalus' grave-sanctuary stood on Sipylus [8]. But hero's honours were paid him at Argos, where local tradition claimed to possess his bones.[9] On Lesbos there was another hero-shrine in the little settlement of Polion and a mountain named for Tantalos[10] Tantalus' punishment, now proverbial for temptation without satisfaction, was to stand in a pool of water beneath a fruit tree with low branches. Whenever he reached for the fruit, the branches raised his intended meal from his grasp. Whenever he bent down to get a drink, the water receded before he could get any. Over his head towers a threatening stone, like that of Sisyphus.[11] It is from this story that the word tantalizing comes.[12]