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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (236852)	7/18/2007 3:42:36 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 281500

How can you say a good memory is racism when every day this one thread gives so many examples of those who would demonize and drive out the Jews if they could? If you were Jewish, would you put your life into the hands of bacchus ii, or el gaviero, or sarman? I've never read any of those posters say negative things about Jews who live in the US. I've read plenty of stuff opposed to Israelis. Fortunately, we don't have to put our lives, Jewish or not, in their hands anyway. They're just posters on an internet chat board who I, Jewish or not, will likely never meet. Your view that Jews shouldn't put their lives in the hand of gentiles is racism, pure and simple. My life is (I guess) in the hand of gentiles every day, and it works out fine. Every single person that doesn't live in Israel puts their life in the hands of gentiles, and they're fine. Why is it such a big deal for you? Because of your racism. How old are you?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (236852)	7/18/2007 11:43:11 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Anti-Semitism is nothing but the antagonistic attitude produced in the non-Jew by the Jewish group. The Jewish group has thrived on oppression and on the antagonism it has forever met in the world... the root cause is their use of enemies they create in order to keep solidarity... --- Albert Einstein, quoted in Collier's Magazine, November 26, 1938

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (236852)	7/19/2007 3:18:54 PM
From: bacchus_ii	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine, although you're on ignore, I'm shout out to by post Message 23710592 Nadine:-If you were Jewish, would you put your life into the hands of bacchus ii, or el gaviero, or sarman? I don't know el gaviero nor sarman and will not answer for them. Oh! Good Lord!, if only I would still practicing any religion, I would pray for you but I don't. I think Emile has already tell you he include you in his prayers and we all know how deep is his faith. Me, the only thing I can tell you is I understand how you are so afraid of us, the gentiles, absent of any reason. Please read this part of Culture of the Critique: THE CULTURE OF CRITIQUE ( prometheism.net ) KEVIN MACDONALD DEPARTMENT OF PSYCHOLOGY CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, LONG BEACH LONG BEACH, CA 90840 (562) 985-8183 page xxxii <<Jews are at the extreme of this Middle Eastern tendency toward hypercollectivism and hyper-ethnocentrism—a phenomenon that goes a long way toward explaining the chronic hostilities in the area. I give many examples of Jewish hyper-ethnocentrism in my trilogy and have suggested in several places that Jewish hyper-ethnocentrism is biologically based (MacDonald 1994, Ch. 8; 1998a, Ch. 1). It was noted above that individualist European cultures tend to be more open to strangers than collectivist cultures such as Judaism. In this regard, it is interesting that developmental psychologists have found unusually intense fear reactions among Israeli infants in response to strangers, while the opposite pattern is found for infants from North Germany.(note14) The Israeli infants were much more likely to become “inconsolably upset” in reaction to strangers, whereas the North German infants had relatively minor reactions to strangers. The Israeli babies therefore tended to have an unusual degree of stranger anxiety, while the North German babies were the opposite—findings that fit with the hypothesis that Europeans and Jews are on opposite ends of scales of xenophobia and ethnocentrism. Note: 14. Grossman et al. and Sagi et al., in I. Bretherton & E. Waters (Eds.), Growing Points in Attachment Theory and Research. Monographs for the Society for Research in Child Development, 50(1–2), 233–275. Sagi et al. suggest temperamental differences in stranger anxiety may be important because of the unusual intensity of the reactions of many of the Israeli infants. The tests were often terminated because of the intense crying of the infants. Sagi et al. find this pattern among both Kibbutz-reared and city-reared infants, although less strongly in the latter. However, the city-reared infants were subjected to somewhat different testing conditions: They were not subjected to a pre-test socialization episode with a stranger. Sagi et al. suggest that the socialization pre-test may have intensified reactions to strangers among the Kibbutz-reared babies, but they note that such pre-tests do not have this effect in samples of infants from Sweden and the U.S. This again highlights the difference between Israeli and European samples.>> ------------------------------------------- "Anti-Semitism is nothing but the antagonistic attitude produced in the non-Jew by the Jewish group. The Jewish group has thrived on oppression and on the antagonism it has forever met in the world... the root cause is their use of enemies they create in order to keep solidarity..." --- Albert Einstein, quoted in Collier's Magazine, November 26, 1938