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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (236970)7/18/2007 6:14:56 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
If Israelis were mostly Oriental Jews, then how do you explain the strong European cultural influence there? Your claim that "most Israelis have ancestors who were never in Europe at any point in history" is therefore patently false. I will correct myself if you show a real study that backs up your claim.


Demographic studies from the 1990s show about equal numbers of Ashkenzim and Mizrahim. They has been more recent immigration from the former USSR - mostly after 1991. Most of those Jews count as Ashkenazi, but some, like the Mountain Jews of the Caucasus, count as Mizrahim. So there are more Ashkenazi immigrants, but Mizrahi birthrates are higher. There is another census planned for next year which will tell the new numbers.

In any case, nobody is saying the Ashkenazim or their cultural influence disappeared, so your statement is claiming a contradiction where none exists by confusing cultural influences with land of origin.

For example: There are millions of Chinese, Japanese and Korean immigrants and their descendants in America. Are you claiming that all these people are really indigenous to Europe because America's cultural influences are European in origin?



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (236970)7/18/2007 6:18:37 PM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 281500
 
Worry about your own land Sun. Your constant attack on jewish folks and their ties to their historical homeland has suspicious motivations. Why the heck are you here. You should be in iran fighting the mullahs which is what i would be doing if i was an iranian and wearing your shoes. Dont pay so much attention to jews--clean up your mess first.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (236970)7/18/2007 6:40:09 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
forgot to post the link on Israel's Mizrahim:

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