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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (6536)	7/19/2007 3:58:39 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Respond to of 25737

Is Iraq a 'defeat'? DEPENDS on what you think the goals were! 1). If the goals were a unified peaceful Iraq... then, yes, it's a 'loss'. 2). If the goals were SEPARATE mini-states (Kurdistan, Shiite Iraq, Sunni 'Trans-Jordan' or something), with the Arab Shiites of Iraq being politically empowered for the first time in history, and Kurdistan independent for the first time in modern history... then the war gets marked-up as a 'win'. 3). (But, if the goal is more narrowly defined as simply the over-throw of the Dictator Saddam... with nothing much else part of the calculus of 'win or loss', then it was marked-up in the 'win' column very clearly over four years ago... and we have possibly been just spinning our wheels and wasting massive amounts of money ever since, as that goal was achieved a long time ago.) ====================================================== How Lost the War Is Message 23716226