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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/19/2007 11:34:04 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
The "Shock Troops" story is falling apart pretty fast. The Weekly Standard story is hardly a half day old & already folks with first hand knowledge are tearing it apart.

Click on the link & read what is written already in the update section.

weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/20/2007 11:36:18 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Even more convincing evidence has been posted to the Update section of the article, 'Fact or Fiction' that utterly destroys the credibility of the hit piece "Shock Troops" gleefully written for the New Republic (see last link below)

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Doubting Thomas

Power Line

Has New Republic editor Franklin Foer stepped forward to explain how the magazine verified the disgraceful incidents recounted in the article "Shock troops" by the pseudonymous "Scott Thomas" prior to publication in the magazine's current issue? I can find no evidence that he has.

Grounds to doubt each of the three incidents recounted in the article surfaced immediately after Michael Goldfarb put the question "Fact or fiction?" before the blogosphere. Stephen Spruiell conveniently summarizes the evolution of doubt about Thomas's article (link below), including Michael Yon's message to Goldbarb that the article "sounds like complete garbage."

The incidents recounted by Thomas have certain attributes in common. Each of the three incidents recounted by Thomas reflect poorly on the American forces fighting in Iraq. Each of them is also highly improbable on its face.
How likely is it, for example, that American soldiers would stand for the mockery of a woman disfigured by an IED? Not bloody likely.

Yet one can infer that the New Republic ran the article without much in the way of independent verification of the incidents recounted in it.
Otherwise one of the loquacious editors and staffers who post at The Plank would surely have risen to the challenges raised to the article around the 'net.

Martin Peretz is listed on the magazine's masthead as editor-in-chief. Mr. Peretz, what say you about "Scott Thomas"? Mr. Foer, what say you? Ladies and gentlemen, what say you all? Let us hear from the editors of the New Republic on the steps undertaken by the magazine to verify the incidents recounted in "Shock troops" prior to publication. Let us know whether you stand by the article now, and why.

The New Republic's publication of "Shock troops" was apparently intended to "shock." Publication of the article has served no constructive purpose other than revealing the casual contempt in which our military forces are held by the editors of the magazine. It is time for the powers-that-be at the magazine to explain themselves.

powerlineblog.com

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corner.nationalreview.com

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RE: "Shock Troops"; go to this link & scroll down for several follow up posts
weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/22/2007 9:36:24 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35834
 
    Of all the hundreds of comments and posts that have 
percolated throughout the blogosphere, to our knowledge
not a single one is able to confirm a single aspect
of "Thomas"'s account. For example, no one who has served
at FOB Falcon recalls the woman at the chow hall....
    ..... The New Republic has so far failed to address any of
these questions.

The New Republic's "Shock Troops": Fact or Fiction?

Looking more and more like fiction.

by Michael Goldfarb
The Weekly Standard
07/20/2007

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE New Republic's "Shock Troops" story that were raised at THE WORLDWIDE STANDARD late Wednesday continue to go unanswered. In fact, active duty soldiers and various experts have raised further doubts about almost all elements of the "Scott Thomas" account.

What we do know, according to the responses we've gotten so far, is that the badly burned woman described by Thomas does not seem to have served at FOB Falcon in the last 14 months. One active duty soldier who asks that his name be withheld writes in:


<<< I was based at Falcon last year for six months with the 101st Airborne. I never saw a woman who fits Thomas's description. That's not conclusive since I haven't been there for almost eight months. But I can say this. The dining facility at Falcon is not large (maybe 200 yards by 50 yards) and the tables are very close together. I cannot remember eating a meal without having an officer or a senior NCO in earshot -- none of whom would tolerate such cruelty for a moment. Moreover, Falcon isn't that large and the faces become familiar quickly. One gets used to and comes to know everyone pretty easily. >>>


Another active duty reader writes in:


<<< In the 11 months I've been here [at FOB Falcon] I've never once seen a female contractor with a burned face. In a compact place like this with only one mess hall I or one of my guys would certainly have noticed someone like that. There are a few female contractors, I think maybe a dozen, but none fit the horrific description given in that article. Further, I've personally seen guys threatened with severe physical harm for making jokes of any kind about IED victims given the number of casualties all the units on this FOB have sustained. It is not a subject we take lightly. Gallows humor jokes do get told, but extremely seldom and never about anyone they actually know or are in the presence of. >>>


Interestingly, it's the story Thomas tells of a soldier using his Bradley to kill stray dogs that has led vets and experts most confidently to assert that this is a work of fiction. Stuart Koehl, an expert on military hardware at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, writes in:


<<< But even assuming that this guy was the world's greatest track driver, I still think the story as presented is pure BS. According to the story, the dog is on the right side of the vehicle, because the driver turns right to run it down.

I am looking now at a 1/32nd scale model of a Bradley, and I can say with some assurance that the driver's hatch is on the left side of the vehicle. Immediately to the driver's right is the engine compartment, the cooling grill of which rises above the level of the driver's hatch, making it impossible to see anything on the right side of the vehicle. Even if the driver was head-out, he still couldn't see anything to his right below the level of the top deck (all armored vehicles have significant blind spots close in, which is why they need dismounts to protect them from RPG guys in foxholes). So, if, as the blog says, the driver "twitched" the Bradley to the right, he must have used extrasensory perception in order to catch the dog. Because there's no way he knew the dog was even there. >>>


And over at The Corner, a Desert Storm vet had this to say:


<<< The article makes it sound like the BFV (Bradley Fighting Vehicle) is some sort of Klingon warship with a cloaking device and a sound silencer, capable of sneaking up on sleeping dogs and running them over before they can get up and move the 2 feet they'd have to get out of the way. >>>


There's a whole lot more like that from vets and active duty personnel whose experience with that particular vehicle informs their judgment that the story "Thomas" tells stretches beyond implausible and into fiction.

And finally, there is the story of the mass grave, which is nearly impossible to prove or disprove without the assistance of the military, but which readers point out is strangely reminiscent of a story that came out of Germany last year that had German soldiers in Afghanistan desecrating remains there.


<<< The uniformed men are seen holding up the skull and posing with it on a military vehicle. Another is seen exposing himself next to the skull. Bild's headline declares: 'German soldiers desecrate a dead person.'

Other pictures show soldiers simulating oral sex with the skull, and one shows the troops having secured the skull to their vehicle like a bonnet mascot. >>>


Suspiciously similar, but "Thomas" takes the story even further...his men were playing with the remains of children and one soldier, he says, wore a skull all day and night.

Of all the hundreds of comments and posts that have percolated throughout the blogosphere, to our knowledge not a single one is able to confirm a single aspect of "Thomas"'s account. For example, no one who has served at FOB Falcon recalls the woman at the chow hall. And the latest email to come in, just two minutes old:


<<< I was actually in Camp Falcon earlier this month and I'm heading back from Afghanistan. I've contacted Captain Carson, the Public Affairs Officer for Falcon and I'll work on proving this Fact or Fiction.

Frankly, I don't believe ANY of this story. I've eaten in the Falcon chow hall and never saw anyone like the woman described. >>>


And the man who wrote that...he stands behind his work: he keeps a blog at MattSanchez.typepad.com.

The New Republic has so far failed to address any of these questions.

Michael Goldfarb is online editor at THE WEEKLY STANDARD

allsupporting links found here
weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/25/2007 1:25:19 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
    It may be that The New Republic editors and others who 
believed Thomas' journal entries without skepticism are
infected with Nifong Syndrome -- the mind virus that
causes otherwise intelligent people to embrace likely
falsehoods because they validate a preconceived belief....
    Why? Because the lies supported their own truths.

Anonymous in Iraq

By Kathleen Parker
RealClearPolitics

So did you hear the one about American soldiers playing with dead baby parts found in a mass grave in Iraq?

No wait, how about the guy who loved to drive Bradley armored vehicles so he could knock down concrete barriers and mow down little doggies sunning in the road?

Or this one: American soldiers in a chow hall making fun of a woman whose face was "more or less melted, along with all the hair on that side of her head" from an IED.

These are but a few of the claims made by one "Scott Thomas," otherwise known as the "Baghdad Diarist," allegedly a soldier serving in Iraq who has sent three dispatches to The New Republic since January. He uses the pseudonym "Scott Thomas," say the magazine's editors, so he can give honest reports without fear of official reprisal.

But are they honest? Or has The New Republic (TNR) been ''glassed'' again? In the 1990s, TNR Associate Editor Stephen Glass was fired for fabricating stories.

The conservative Weekly Standard began questioning the reports last week. Bloggers have joined in challenging the anecdotes, as have military personnel who have served in Iraq and, in some cases, have eaten in the same chow hall mentioned.

Thomas' version of events in Iraq is looking less and less credible and smacks of the "occult hand."

The occult hand was an inside joke several years ago among a group of journalists who conspired to see how often they could slip the phrase -- "It was as if an occult hand had ..." -- into their copy. This went on for years to the great merriment of a few in the know.

Looking back, it's hard to imagine how a phrase as purple as "an occult hand" could have enjoyed such long play within the tribe of professional skeptics known as journalists. Similarly, one wonders how Thomas' reports have appeared in the magazine without his editors saying, "Hey, wait just a minute."

When it comes to the playbook of anti-military cliches, Thomas seems guilty of plagiarism. What could be more cliche, after all, than American soldiers ridiculing a defaced woman, running over dogs or desecrating babies' remains?

The New Republic editors say they're investigating the reports, but refuse to reveal the author's identity. There's always a chance, of course, that these stories have some truth to them. Maybe a guy made an unkind remark about a poor woman's burned face. Maybe a dog got run over. Maybe a grave was found and a soldier capped his head with a skull part.

Stranger -- and far worse -- things have happened in war. But people who have served in Iraq have raised enough questions about these particular anecdotes that one is justified in questioning whether they are true.

As just one example, it is unlikely that a Bradley would be driven through concrete barriers just for fun, according to an Army JAG who e-mailed me. He explained that people aren't alone out there. Other vehicles, NCOs and officers would be around and Iraqis would have made a claim for repairs, resulting in a JAG investigation.

In other words, either plenty of people would know about it -- or it didn't happen.

It may be that The New Republic editors and others who believed Thomas' journal entries without skepticism are infected with Nifong Syndrome -- the mind virus that causes otherwise intelligent people to embrace likely falsehoods because they validate a preconceived belief.

Mike Nifong, the North Carolina prosecutor in the alleged Duke lacrosse team rape case, was able to convince a credulous community of residents, academics and especially journalists that the three falsely accused men had raped a black stripper despite compelling evidence to the contrary.

Why? Because the lies supported their own truths. In the case of Duke, that "truth" was that privileged white athletes are racist pigs who of course would rape a black woman given half a chance and a bottle o' beer.

In the case of Scott Thomas, the "truth" that American soldiers are woman-hating, dog-killing, grave-robbing monsters confirms what many among the anti-war left believe about the military, despite their protestations that they "support the troops."

We tend to believe what we want to believe, in other words.

Whether Scott Thomas is real and his reports true remains to be determined. In the meantime, it is tempting to wonder: What if we believed in American honor and victory in Iraq?

What would those dispatches look like?

kparker@kparker.com
(c) 2007, Washington Post Writers Group

realclearpolitics.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/25/2007 2:23:35 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
More on the made-up atrocities

Redstate - Conservative News and Community

Courtesy of Michael Goldfarb at the Worldwide Standard, we have another statement from MAJ Kirk Luedeke, the Public Affairs Officer for the 4th IBCT at FOB Falcon near Baghdad (a location where I was on my last embed, and where I will be again on this embed). The text of his email is below the fold; as always, he is direct, to the point, and very, very believable.

<SNIP>

MAJ Luedeke's email is as follows:

<<< I've been watching the events on the New Republic's "Scott Thomas" piece with interest.

As the 4th IBCT Public Affairs Officer- I can tell you unequivocally: there was NO mass grave discovered in this area of operations in conjunction with the building of a coalition outpost anytime in the past 12 months. None. Zero. Zip. And Frank Foer's assertions to the contrary, there is no way that his mystery soldier "Scott Thomas" can prove it. Foer can produce all of the alleged "eyewitnesses" he wants- unless these individuals are willing to back up their claims with real evidence, it's just so much garbage on a computer screen. Some people seem to forget that the burden of proof should be on the New Republic to back up his unsubstantiated claims and not the other way around.

If the story *is* true, then "Scott" and whomever else is purporting to back up his assertions should come forward, identify themselves and submit their report through official channels.
We are not in the business of suppressing his right to free speech...on the contrary- he's free to submit whatever he wants, so long as it doesn't put others at risk for operational security (OPSEC). Of course- by putting his name on such outlandish claims, he then has to account for what is clearly a series of false statements. So- obviously- it is left to reasonable people to decide who is telling the truth here.

I invite Mr. Foer and the New Republic to actually give us something to go on. Proof. Any kind will do- and something more than one anonymous soldier's claims and a nebulous "we've heard from others who can corroborate it," kinds of responses he provided Howard Kurtz. It's kind of hard to take these allegations seriously, when you're hiding behind the cloak of anonymity. Just about every Soldier these days has his or her own digital camera or video camera. Talk to anyone here- every unit down to squad level in our brigade is *required* to have a camera on every mission. It's all part of being prepared for such a discovery. Surely- there would be photos of the skulls and mass grave if it truly existed, would there not? The reason there isn't any photos, is because simply- the story isn't true.

There may be small grains of truth to what Scott Thomas has written. But, I can tell you that at least one event he's described as "fact" could not have occurred. To claim that an entire chain of command was complicit in keeping quiet such a grisly and important discovery of such magnitude stretches the realm of believability and is a grave insult to the professionalism and dedication of so many fine Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines serving here.

I know that if my organization claimed to have unearthed a sizeable cache of hundreds of explosives, rockets, nitric acid and other key components to make roadside bombs, otherwise known here in these parts as a "good news story," media outlets would rightfully demand some kind of proof to subtantiate our claims. That's why we take pictures of such things and provide them along with our press releases. The inability of the New Republic and Scott Thomas to provide any kind of photographic evidence whatsoever, and the fact that "Scott" isn't willing to come forward and identify himself, pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

If he is in fact speaking the truth- he should have no problem putting his real name next to it. It's called integrity, and it's one of the seven Army Values. That neither he nor the New Republic want to do that, and then hide behind the need to protect him from "retribution" (when I would add that he *is* in fact breaking a DoD directive with his actions) merely underscores the dubious nature of this whole story.

I invite Scott Thomas to come by the Dragon PAO shop at FOB Falcon- Bldg 301, Rm 119, and I'd be happy to share the DoD media policy with him. While he's here, I'd love to discuss with him the mass graves, Bradley IFV dog hunting and IED burn victim he's so intent on stating is fact. If he can provide the evidence, I will gladly retract every word I've posted on the subject. If he's not willing to do that, then it kind of makes you wonder about his credibility, and that of the New Republic's doesn't it?

Best regards,

Major Kirk Luedeke

Public Affairs Officer

4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division DRAGONS FOB Falcon >>>

(Emphasis added) Like I said, the soldiers are human. They will make mistakes, and those mistakes - especially when malicious - are fair game for journalists to, for lack of a better word, exploit. So why the rush to hang them with suspect info from a pseudonymous, uncorroborated source? It just smacks - very loudly - of a very, very strong desire to portray them as being horrible, horrible people, regardless of the facts (not to mention a desperate lack of patience; could somebody be worried that (a) they won't get the scoop if they take time to verify, or (b) a real atrocity just might not come along if the effort is made to check the facts on every report?)

Either way, that is, in a word, Pathetic.

Look, here's an offer for The New Republic: I'll be back at FOB Falcon in about six weeks. I'd be more than happy to do whatever investigative work is necessary to either corroborate or debunk the story (or stories) provided to you by "Scott Thomas." Just let me know via the contact tool on this site.

Deal?

redstate.com

weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/26/2007 3:47:56 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
    For TNR, “Scott Thomas” provides the approved, 
preconceived, narrative — facts be damned.

Stephen Glass Meets the Winter Soldiers

The tendency to believe the worst.

By Mackubin Thomas Owens
National Review Online

As everyone knows by now, bloggers (including on National Review Online’s “The Tank” and “The Corner”) have begun to question the veracity of several The New Republic articles purportedly authored by an active-duty soldier serving in Iraq. The three articles by the pseudonymous “Scott Thomas” describe behavior by American soldiers that, while not rising to the level of atrocities, is nonetheless troubling. TNR’s “Baghdad Diarist” describes his mates mocking a woman horribly scarred by an IED, portrays another wearing part of a human skull, and depicts yet another using a Bradley fighting vehicle to run over stray dogs. What are we to make of these stories?

Michael Yon, perhaps the most reliable observer of troops in Iraq, labels the “Diarist’s” stories as “garbage.” Most of the other comments I have seen, especially by soldiers and Marines who are serving or have served in Iraq, describe the stories in less polite terms.

Nonetheless, the “Diarist’s” stories remind me of the sort of shocking and outrageous statements young men like to tell to credulous listeners. As the late Harry Summers, a veteran of two wars once remarked, such stories are intended to have the same impact as the sight of two Hell’s Angels French kissing in front of a group of bystanders: shock and awe. They also remind me of the predisposition of the American press to believe the worst about American soldiers, a predisposition that dates to the Vietnam War.

NRO readers may recall that I wrote a number of articles about atrocities, real and alleged, during the run up to the 2004 election. I was especially critical of John Kerry, who, despite honorable service during the Vietnam War, essentially smeared all of his comrades as war criminals after he left active duty. Who can forget his 1971 testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Here he invoked the so-called “Winter Soldier Investigation,” organized by such antiwar celebrities as Jane Fonda and conspiracy theorist Mark Lane, in which:

<<< over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. . . . They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do. They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country. >>>

As with the TNR case today, most Vietnam veterans took these confessions with a grain of salt. When I read Mark Lane’s 1970 book, Conversations with Americans, and the transcripts of the Winter Soldiers Investigation, I was struck by how implausible most of the atrocity claims were. I was apparently not alone. Lane’s book was panned by James Reston Jr. and Neil Sheehan, not exactly known as war supporters; Sheehan demonstrated that many of Lane’s “eyewitnesses” either had never served in Vietnam or had not done so in the capacities they claimed.

In an earlier NRO piece, I recounted a personal anecdote that made me question the Winter Soldier Investigation stories — and makes me skeptical of the “Scott Thomas” story being pushed by TNR. I began by noting that I didn’t commit or witness atrocities during my tour in Vietnam as a Marine infantry platoon leader. As far as I know, neither did the other officers in my regiment and battalion. But I heard of an atrocity just after I joined the unit. A Marine who was scheduled to rotate soon recounted an incident that he claimed had occurred shortly after he had arrived in the unit about a year earlier. According to his story, members of a sister company had killed some North Vietnamese soldiers after they had surrendered.

Some months later, I happened to overhear another Marine who had joined my platoon after I took it over relate exactly the same story to some newly arrived men, only now it involved me and my platoon. I had a little chat with him and he cleared things up with the new men. But that episode has always made me wonder how many of the stories have been recycled and how many accounts of atrocities are based on what veterans heard as opposed to committed or witnessed.

In Iraq, we have seen evidence of the press’s predisposition to believe the worst about American soldiers in its coverage of Abu Ghraib, Fallujah, and most recently Hadithah. It is now on display, not only in the TNR story, but also in “The Other War: Iraq Veterans Bear Witness“ in the July 30th issue of The Nation, which bills the Iraq war as “a dark and even depraved enterprise.” The article is based on interviews with some 50 Iraq war veterans and purportedly describes “disturbing patterns of behavior by American troops in Iraq.” According to the piece, the war has “led many troops to declare an open war on all Iraqis.”

I have news for the editors of The Nation: War, especially the sort of war we are waging in Iraq — a war in which a man or boy who waves at American troops during the day may plant an IED at night — can desensitize even the most decent individual. History proves that in the absence of leadership and enforced rules of engagement, war can lead one to the depths of moral depravity. But no military in history has attempted to limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to the extent that the U.S. military has. The Nation lays civilian casualties in Iraq at the feet of the US military. But this is nonsense. The very fact that Sunni sheiks in al Anbar province and elsewhere are turning against al Qaeda indicates that they know who kills indiscriminately, even if The Nation doesn’t.

Of course, the approved version of this predisposition is to attribute the bad behavior of troops in Iraq not to moral depravity per se, but to the policy that put them in Iraq in the first place. Thus John Murtha (D., Pa.), while publicly convicting Marines in Hadithah of “kill[ing] innocent civilians in cold blood,” then absolved them by claiming that the alleged incident “shows the tremendous pressure that these guys are under every day when they’re out in combat.”

TNR’s record on this sort of thing is not particularly good.

There is of course, Stephen Glass. But the predisposition of which I speak was on full display in the September 6, 2004, issue of TNR. There Peter Beinart suggested in “Apocalypse Redux” that those who criticized Kerry were somehow denying that atrocities occurred in Vietnam. Beinart then went on to cite a number of historians who, sure enough, assured us that atrocities did occur in Vietnam. Of course, no one disputes the fact that Americans committed atrocities in Vietnam. But as Jim Webb observed at the time, the
    “stories of atrocious conduct, repeated in lurid detail by
Kerry before the Congress, represented not the typical
experience of the American soldier, but its ugly extreme”
(emphasis added).

The press’s predisposition to believe certain stories was nicely dissected by Rachael Smolkin’s piece on the Duke-lacrosse rape story in the June/July issue of The American Journalism Review, “Justice Delayed.” She quotes Daniel Okrent, a former New York Times public editor, who, in words that apply directly to coverage of the war in Iraq, states that
    [The Duke lacrosse story] was too delicious…. It conformed
too well to too many preconceived notions of too many in
the press: white over black, rich over poor, athletes over
non-athletes, men over women, educated over non-educated.
Wow. That’s a package of sins that really fit the
preconceptions of a lot of us.
But then she gleans from Newsweek’s Evan Thomas an admission that captures the essence of what’s wrong with the American press when it comes to reporting not only on the Duke-lacrosse case, but also on Iraq:
    We fell into a stereotype of the Duke lacrosse players. 
It’s complicated because there is a strong stereotype
[that] lacrosse players can be loutish, and there’s
evidence to back that up. There’s even some evidence that
that the Duke lacrosse players were loutish, and we were
too quick to connect those dots. It was about race.
Nifong’s motivations clearly were rooted in his need to
win black votes. There were tensions between town and
gown, that part was true. The narrative was properly about
race, sex and class. . . . We went a beat too fast in
assuming that a rape took place. . . . We just got the
facts wrong. The narrative was right, but the facts were
wrong
(my emphasis).
Smolkin writes that “often, the preconceptions — rather than the facts — dictated not only the tone of the coverage but also its volume and prominence.” For TNR, “Scott Thomas” provides the approved, preconceived, narrative — facts be damned.

article.nationalreview.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/26/2007 4:16:57 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
More Questions for TNR Editor Franklin Foer

NRO Staff
The Corner

Last Friday you said that based on your investigation there was "nothing to undermine—and much to corroborate" the "Scott Thomas" story. Is there any piece of corroborating information that you can share now, a week after the controversy erupted?

You said in the New York Times that it is difficult to get in touch with the author and the participants when they are on "20-hour active combat missions." If that's the case, what was the basis of your initial assurance on Friday that there is "much" to corroborate the story and why did you say "I've spoken extensively with the author of the piece and have communicated with other soldiers who witnessed the events described in the diarist"? How do you define "much"? And can you share anything about those "extensive" communications?

You say that Scott Thomas is a soldier serving in Baghdad and that you met him in the United States. Where and when did you meet him? TNR's editors say they have "absolute certainty" that Thomas is a soldier serving in Baghdad. Can you share with us the reasons—any reason—for that absolute certainty?

You say you rigorously fact-checked the story by passing it to other reporters "to make sure that it smelled good." Is that really how you do rigorous fact-checking? On the basis of whether something smells good to other reporters? Now that so many members of the military say its smells bad isn't it obvious that that form of fact-checking was insufficient?

You say that before publishing the piece "we spent a lot of time on the phone asking hard questions." What sort of hard questions?

Can you please share the evidence you have so far that the mocking, skull-wearing, and dog-killing incidents happened? They may have, but credible doubts have been raised and your credibility and that of your publication is at stake. You have already talked to several reporters about the controversy, so why don't you do yourself and your colleagues the favor of settling some of these questions right now?

corner.nationalreview.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/26/2007 8:40:21 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Scott "Shock Troops" Thomas revealed

posted at 8:20 am on July 26, 2007 by Bryan
Hot Air blog

He’s Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp, a member of Alpha Company, 1/18 Infantry, Second Brigade Combat Team, First Infantry Division. He’s also calling most of his critics chickenhawks, even though most of his critics a) served in the military and/or b) have been to Iraq or c) both. The pre-amble to Pvt Thomas’ letter is one more exercise in silliness from TNR:

<<< Although the article was rigorously edited and fact-checked before it was published, we have decided to go back and, to the extent possible, re-report every detail. This process takes considerable time, as the primary subjects are on another continent, with intermittent access to phones and email. Thus far we’ve found nothing to disprove the facts in the article; we will release the full results of our search when it is completed. >>>


It’s actually not that complicated, guys. Was there or was there not a mass grave that contained the bones of children underneath everyday, mundane household items? If there was, Pvt Thomas’ writings could be true, but if there wasn’t — and we know that there wasn’t — then they can’t be true. Are the Iraqi police the only ones who use Glocks in Iraq? If they are, his writings could be true. If they’re not — in a country awash in weapons, they’re not — his writings contain fabulism.

That’s the bottom line. There’s no need to blame the lack of a good fact check a week after the saga erupted on the difficulty of tracking down witnesses to all the events Thomas claims to have witnessed. All one needs to do is check the basic checkable facts he reports. That wasn’t done before publication, and hasn’t been done yet.

I’ll probably have more to say on this later, once I’ve sifted through Pvt Thomas’ account more thoroughly.

hotair.com

tnr.com



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/27/2007 4:20:45 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Day by Day

Chris Muir



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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/27/2007 5:39:50 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
What's that Now?

Jonah Goldberg
The Corner

"Scott Thomas" now known as Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp writes:

<<< That being said, my character, my experiences, and those of my comrades in arms have been called into question, and I believe that it is important to stand by my writing under my real name. >>>


Isn't this just a bit too precious? The guy writes about how his comrades mock disfigured women, slaughter dogs and wear baby skulls as hats, but he's upset that others have called his and his comrades' character into question? Someone explain that to me.

In fact, much of the criticism has been that U.S. soldiers would have better characters than those described in his pieces. Sorry: No sale. Scot Thomas Beauchamp may or may not be honest, but he's by no means a victim.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/27/2007 5:44:41 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Re: What's that now?

Mark Steyn
The Corner

A reader writes:
    Jonah, it's even more precious than that. Scott Thomas 
Beauchamp complains that his character has been called
into question.
Just for the record, here is Private Beauchamp's character in his own words:

<<< “I think she’s f*****g hot!” I blurted out.

“What?” said my friend, half-smiling.

“Yeah man,” I continued. “I love chicks that have been intimate—with IEDs. It really turns me on—melted skin, missing limbs, plastic noses . . . .”

“You’re crazy, man!” my friend said, doubling over with laughter. I took it as my cue to continue.

“In fact, I was thinking of getting some girls together and doing a photo shoot. Maybe for a calendar? ‘IED Babes.’ We could have them pose in thongs and bikinis on top of the hoods of their blown-up vehicles.”

My friend was practically falling out of his chair laughing. The disfigured woman slammed her cup down and ran out of the chow hall, her half-finished tray of food nearly falling to the ground. >>>


In English libel law, Private Beauchamp would be regarded as a man with no reputation to defame.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/27/2007 5:54:19 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Saving Private Beauchamp

Mark Steyn
The Corner

A reader writes:

<<< So now your beef with Scott Thomas is that he whines?

That's pathetic: the stuff the guy described really happened; the right's "None of our boys would ever behave that way!" crap has been discredited; and now you're trying to change the subject.

Just one question, though. You guys advocate torture and warrantless wiretapping and elimination of habeus corpus and black sites and all the rest. That's your bread and butter. It's what you love. Why'd you get so upset about a soldier in the desert wearing a skull on his head? >>>


Er, actually, I didn't get upset. I haven't written a word on the subject and, if I did, I'd tend to agree with my distinguished compatriot Kathy Shaidle. But no doubt Private Beauchamp's moral authority is now as "absolute" as Maureen Dowd said Cindy Sheehan's was. I do find it interesting, however, as Michelle Malkin does, that in his own words he appears to have joined the army in order to add "legitimacy to everything" and "bolster my opinions on defense, etc" when he becomes an "author". This entry on his blog is worth pondering:


<<< "S***, I don't know...put a 556 in his head"
On the street below the mans brown face dissolves into a thick red mist. The lights in the cities houses shut off in unison. Elecricity rationing. Water rationing too. You ever tried to survive for more than a few hours in hundred and twenty degree weather without water? In the streets the kids bodies start convulsing in semi-orgasmic rhythms. Their pants fill up with s*** and p***... >>>


That was May 2006. Not dissimilar to Private Beauchamp's skull-wearing-in-Baghdad diary. Was he in Iraq last year? Did he witness a war crime? Is this reportage? Or was he just doing a bit of imaginative fiction like the creative-writing classes teach? And into which category do his New Republic pieces fall?

Strange chap.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)7/27/2007 5:59:47 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
What's That Now? Cont'd

Jonah Goldberg
The Corner

Mark – I’m getting similar email. I’d add a few points.

First, I stand by my criticism of the guy. Boasting about how you and your buddies mock disfigured women, wear baby skulls as party hats and hunt dogs for sport and then taking offense when people don’t think you’re as much of a jerk as you put on is hardly a winning stance in my book. There are worse things than lying – or “embellishing” – and it sounds to me that Beauchamp fails to grasp that fact when he whines, in effect, “I’m a jerk, but I’m not a liar.”

Second, I’ve been for the most part quiet about this whole thing myself. This isn’t like the Dan Rather self-immolation, at least for me. I’ve known Frank Foer for at least a decade, and while I want the truth to come out, I also sympathized – and continue to sympathize – with his predicament. Frank’s an honorable and serious guy and the New Republic is typically a worthy opponent for conservatives.

I think, even if broadly accurate, Frank made a mistake in running these pieces because they aren’t up to the standards of his magazine and they advance an argument I don’t think the New Republic should be making. Liberals don’t want to beat up on the troops anymore, they want to enlist them as victims. The subtext of the pieces is that the war has made American soldiers evil or at least put holes in their souls. But, at this point at least (and I would argue always), I think it’s pretty clear that even if true, Beauchamp’s experience is not representative. But, lacking editorial rebuttal of any kind, the editors of the New Republic seemed to want people to think it is. That’s a bad argument for the New Republic, liberalism and everybody else. Regardless, whatever point-scoring opportunities there may be here, I’m saddened by the whole thing. I certainly won’t be jumping for joy if Beauchamp turns out to be another fabulist. Nor will I think his diarists are an indictment of anybody but Beauchamp himself if they are corroborated.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/2/2007 7:46:07 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Well, It Was Part Of Iraq For A Time, Right?

By Ed Driscoll
Oh, That Liberal Media
August 02, 2007 02:55 PM

Scott Thomas Beauchamp in the New Republic, 7/13/07:

<<< saw her nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq. She wore an unrecognizable tan uniform, so I couldn't really tell whether she was a soldier or a civilian contractor. The thing that stood out about her, though, wasn't her strange uniform but the fact that nearly half her face was severely scarred. Or, rather, it had more or less melted, along with all the hair on that side of her head. She was always alone, and I never saw her talk to anyone. Members of my platoon had seen her before but had never really acknowledged her. Then, on one especially crowded day in the chow hall, she sat down next to us. >>>

His editors today:

<<< “The recollections of these three soldiers differ from Beauchamp's on one significant detail (the only fact in the piece that we have determined to be inaccurate): They say the conversation occurred at Camp Buehring, in Kuwait, prior to the unit's arrival in Iraq. When presented with this important discrepancy, Beauchamp acknowledged his error. We sincerely regret this mistake.” >>>


As Dean Barnett writes, "I thought Beauchamp was supposed to communicate to TNR’s audience of urban sophisticates what things are like in Iraq, not Kuwait." Stephen Spruiell adds, "That's a rather significant detail to flub, given that the author's intent was to illustrate the morally deadening effects of war."

Maybe it's time for Beauchamp to attempt the Full Metal Jacket defense, something along the lines of "we were we were morally deadened even before combat, and so programmed to kill that we didn't know where we were." Or start shopping the movie rights.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/6/2007 6:53:41 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Not-So-Great Scott

John Podhoretz
The Corner

The New Republic has, in essence, defended the personal essay by U.S. soldier Scott Thomas Beauchamp on all grounds save one: That Beauchamp relocated to Iraq an incident in which he participated in Kuwait. In that incident, he supposedly made fun of a horribly burned woman while others laughed along.

It is now looking like that incident was entirely invented, and that The New Republic had reason to know there were problems with its veracity before it published its defense of Beauchamp.


Bob Owens, who runs the fine and careful website Confederate Yankee, has received an e-mail from an Army public-affairs officer in Kuwait where Thomas supposedly did the burned-woman-insulting that reads, bluntly: "We have absolutely no record of this. MAJ Russo contacted Buerhing and our Area Support Group and they do not have anything either."

That Major Russo is the same official who was contacted by Jason Zengerle of the New Republic, who was trying to verify the Beauchamp story after its publication. She told Confederate Yankee that she informed Zengerle she had "not been able to find anyone to back it up. There is not a police
report or complaint filed on this incident during that timeframe. Right now it is considered to be a Urban Legend or Myth." Her skepticism is nowhere reflected in TNR's apologia for Beauchamp.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/6/2007 10:47:03 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
This is another prime example of the morally and emotionally distorting effects of BDS

****

Beauchamp Recants

Posted by Michael Goldfarb
THE WEEKLY STANDARD
August 6, 2007 09:52 PM

THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned from a military source close to the investigation that Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp--author of the much-disputed "Shock Troops" article in the New Republic's July 23 issue as well as two previous "Baghdad Diarist" columns--signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods--fabrications containing only "a smidgen of truth," in the words of our source.

Separately, we received this statement from Major Steven F. Lamb, the deputy Public Affairs Officer for Multi National Division-Baghdad:
    An investigation has been completed and the allegations 
made by PVT Beauchamp were found to be false. His platoon
and company were interviewed and no one could substantiate
the claims.
According to the military source, Beauchamp's recantation was volunteered on the first day of the military's investigation. So as Beauchamp was in Iraq signing an affidavit denying the truth of his stories, the New Republic was publishing a statement from him on its website on July 26, in which Beauchamp said, "I'm willing to stand by the entirety of my articles for the New Republic using my real name."

The magazine's editors admitted on August 2 that one of the anecdotes Beauchamp stood by in its entirety--meant to illustrate the "morally and emotionally distorting effects of war"--took place (if at all) in Kuwait, before his tour of duty in Iraq began, and not, as he had claimed, in his mess hall in Iraq. That event was the public humiliation by Beauchamp and a comrade of a woman whose face had been "melted" by an IED.

Nothing public has been heard from Beauchamp since his statement standing by his stories, which was posted on the New Republic website at 6:30 a.m. on July 26. In their August 2 statement, the New Republic's editors complained that the military investigation was "short-circuiting" TNR's own fact-checking efforts. "Beauchamp," they said, "had his cell-phone and computer taken away and is currently unable to speak to even his family. His fellow soldiers no longer feel comfortable communicating with reporters. If further substantive information comes to light, TNR will, of course, share it with you."

Now that the military investigation has concluded, the great unanswered question in the affair is this: Did Scott Thomas Beauchamp lie under oath to U.S. Army investigators, or did he lie to his editors at the New Republic? Beauchamp has recanted under oath. Does the New Republic still stand by his stories?

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/6/2007 10:56:57 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
The Short Happy Life of Scott Beauchamp, Fabulist...

Power Line

<Snip>
    The New Republic didn't bother to verify Beauchamp's 
stories, apparently because it found them to be self-
authenticating: a depiction of America's soldiers that
just had to be true. It appears that Beauchamp's yarns
will be another chapter in the sad history of "fake, and
not accurate, either" news stories. Whether the New
Republic can survive this debacle, in view of its history
of falling for hoaxes, remains to be seen.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2007/08/018142.php



To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/8/2007 5:34:10 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Don't Beauchamp that joint

Power Line

The final chapter in the Scott Thomas Beauchamp saga has yet to be written, but Mark Steyn makes a point that should be kept in mind if Michael Goldfarb's intelilgence bears out:
    If that Weekly Standard story is correct, it moves Private
Beauchamp into full-blown Stephen Glass territory. In
essence, they made the same mistakes all over again -
falling for pat cinematic vividness, pseudo-novelistic
dialogue, all designed to confirm prejudices so ingrained
the editors didn't even recognize they were being pandered
to. But this time they did it in war, which is worse.
Recall that nearly thirty of the stories that New Republic fabulist Stephen Glass wrote for the New Republic were subsequently determined to be fabricated in whole or in part. Recall the conflicting statements posted by "the editors" of the New Republic confirming and standing by Beauchamp's three TNR articles with the ultimate exception of the location of the incident involved in the lead anecodote of "Shock troops" (which itself destroyed the purported point of the anecdote). We await some definitive word on the Army's investigation and the return of "the editors" from their vacation.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/8/2007 8:25:27 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
    John Judis is a senior editor of the New Republic and may 
be even be one of those "editors" who stands by
Beauchamp's column as corrected. Perhaps in his next
article for the New Republic he can take a look at what
war did to the New Republic, a subject he could address
with somwhat more authority than "what war did to Jeffrey
Lucey."

What war did to the New Republic

Power line

The New Republic subtitles John Judis's article on the suicide of a troubled Iraq war veteran "what war did to Jeffrey Lucey." Judis doesn't actually know what caused Lucey's alcoholism and mental illness, as the reader can observe:

<<< [W]hether Lucey's memories of what he did were of real or imagined events, what remains striking about his story is the degree to which the fear and anxiety that are normal to war are mixed from the start with a searing guilt. Lucey may never have killed two unarmed Iraqi soldiers, but he did witness the carnage in Nasiriyah and perhaps elsewhere, and that may have fuelled his later delusions. >>>


By the following sentence, Judis's speculations become a fact on which further speculation can be based:


<<< This toxic combination of anxiety and guilt may be a factor in the high incidence of mental illness and of suicide among Iraqi veterans. >>>


Judis is quite confident that the Iraq war caused Lucey's mental illness and suicide. After reading his article, a reader can conclude that it's possible. A reader can also conclude that we don't really know what caused Jeffrey Lucey to kill himself, though the New Republic wants its readers to conclude that the war did it.

Here we see certain themes from the antiwar movement of the era of the Vietnam War being recycled. With the return of "Winter Soldier Syndrome" Michelle Malkin finds the same phenomonenon at work in the the fabulations of the New Republic's Baghdad Diarist:

    Ever since John Kerry sat in front of the Senate Foreign 
Relations Committee and accused American soldiers of
wantonly razing villages "in fashion reminiscent of
Genghis Khan,"
the Left has embraced a small cadre of
self-loathing soldiers and soldier wannabes willing to
sell their deadened souls for the anti-war cause. Think
Jimmy Massey, the unhinged Marine who falsely accused his
unit of engaging in mass genocide against Iraqis. Think
Jesse MacBeth and Micah Wright, anti-war Army Rangers who
weren't Army Rangers.
    Winter Soldier Syndrome will only be cured when the costs 
of slandering the troops outweigh the benefits. Exposing
Scott Thomas Beauchamp and his brethren matters because
the truth matters. The honor of the military matters. The
credibility of the media matters. Think it doesn't make a
difference? Imagine where Sen. John Kerry would be now if
the Internet had been around in 1971.
Yesterday Michael Goldfarb reported that he has interviewed a military source close to the Army's investigation into Beauchamp's "Shock troops" column and that Beauchamp has recanted his New Republic articles in a sworn statement signed as part of the Army's investigation. Consistent with Goldfarb's report, the Army investigation of Beuachamp's column has reached the conclusion that Beauchamp's allegations are "false."
"The editors" of the New Republic responded to Goldfarb's report with their third (or is it fourth?) note or statement:


<<< We've talked to military personnel directly involved in the events that Scott Thomas Beauchamp described, and they corroborated his account as detailed in our [first] statement. When we called Army spokesman Major Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation that Beauchamp had recanted his articles in a sworn statement, he told us, "I have no knowledge of that." He added, "If someone is speaking anonymously [to The Weekly Standard], they are on their own." When we pressed Lamb for details on the Army investigation, he told us, "We don't go into the details of how we conduct our investigations." >>>


"The editors" fail to note that the Army investigation has concluded that Beauchamp's allegations are false, and they are unable to contradict Goldfarb's report regarding Beauchamp's sworn statement recanting his New Republic articles. In his Washington Post article updating the Beauchamp story today, Howard Kurtz leads with the conclusion reached in the Army investigation.

Kurtz's article is straight he said/she said reportage, but a critical reader of Beachamp's column and its subsequent correction (i.e., Michelle Malkin) can see the absurdity of the New Republic's standing by it as corrected:


<<< To illustrate the soul-deadening impact of war, Beauchamp had described sitting in a mess hall in Iraq mocking a female civilian contractor whose face had "melted" after an IED explosion. "I love chicks that have been intimate -- with IEDs," Pvt. Beauchamp claimed he said out loud in her earshot. "It really turns me on -- melted skin, missing limbs, plastic noses." Beauchamp recounted vividly: "My friend was practically falling out of his chair laughing. The disfigured woman slammed her cup down and ran out of the chow hall."

It wasn't true. After active-duty troops, veterans, embedded journalists and bloggers raised pointed questions about the veracity of the anecdote, Beauchamp confessed to The New Republic's meticulous fact-checkers that the mocking had taken place in Kuwait -- before he had set foot in Iraq to experience the soul-deadening impact of war.

Military officials in Kuwait tried to verify the incident and called it an "urban legend or myth." Beauchamp's essays are filled with similarly spun tales. How much of a bull-slinger was Beauchamp, an aspiring creative writer who crowed on his personal blog that he would "return to America an author" after serving (which he told friends and family would "add a legitimacy to EVERYTHING I do afterwards")? The very first line of his essay "Shock Troops," which opened with the melted-face mockery, was this: "I saw her nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq."

"Nearly every time." At "my base in Iraq." Complete and utter bull. >>>

In short, the New Republic stands by Beauchamp's Baghdad Diarist column as corrected, although the correction is inconsistent with the theme of the column and shows Beauchamp to be a fabulist. John Judis is a senior editor of the New Republic and may be even be one of those "editors" who stands by Beauchamp's column as corrected. Perhaps in his next article for the New Republic he can take a look at what war did to the New Republic, a subject he could address with somwhat more authority than "what war did to Jeffrey Lucey."

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/8/2007 9:53:04 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Winter Soldier Syndrome

By Michelle Malkin
RealClearPolitics

The tale of Army Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp, the discredited "Baghdad Diarist" for the discredited New Republic magazine, is an old tale:

Self-aggrandizing soldier recounts war atrocities. Media outlets disseminate soldier's tales uncritically. Military folks smell a rat and poke holes in tales too good (or rather, bad) to be true. Soldier's ideological sponsors blame the messengers for exposing anti-war fraud.

Beauchamp belongs in the same ward as John F. Kerry, the original infectious agent of the toxic American disease known as Winter Soldier Syndrome. The ward is filling up.

U.S. military investigators concluded this week that Beauchamp concocted allegations of troop misconduct in a series of essays for The New Republic. "The investigation is complete and the allegations from PVT Beauchamp are false," Major Steven Lamb, a spokesman for Multi National Division-Baghdad, told USA Today. The New Republic is standing by Beauchamp's work. But Michael Goldfarb, online editor and blogger at The Weekly Standard who first challenged Beauchamp's writing, reported Monday that Beauchamp had "signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods -- fabrications containing only 'a smidgen of truth,' in the words of our source."

To illustrate the soul-deadening impact of war, Beauchamp had described sitting in a mess hall in Iraq mocking a female civilian contractor whose face had "melted" after an IED explosion. "I love chicks that have been intimate -- with IEDs," Pvt. Beauchamp claimed he said out loud in her earshot. "It really turns me on -- melted skin, missing limbs, plastic noses." Beauchamp recounted vividly: "My friend was practically falling out of his chair laughing. The disfigured woman slammed her cup down and ran out of the chow hall."

It wasn't true. After active-duty troops, veterans, embedded journalists and bloggers raised pointed questions about the veracity of the anecdote, Beauchamp confessed to The New Republic's meticulous fact-checkers that the mocking had taken place in Kuwait -- before he had set foot in Iraq to experience the soul-deadening impact of war.

Military officials in Kuwait tried to verify the incident and called it an "urban legend or myth." Beauchamp's essays are filled with similarly spun tales. How much of a bull-slinger was Beauchamp, an aspiring creative writer who crowed on his personal blog that he would "return to America an author" after serving (which he told friends and family would "add a legitimacy to EVERYTHING I do afterwards")? The very first line of his essay "Shock Troops," which opened with the melted-face mockery, was this: "I saw her nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq."

"Nearly every time." At "my base in Iraq."
Complete and utter bull.

Defenders of The New Republic, a left-leaning magazine infamously duped by another young and ambitious fabulist, Stephen Glass, say the Beauchamp saga has been 1) blown out of proportion; 2) perpetuated by sloppy, rumor-mongering bloggers; 3) used as a distraction from the troubles in Iraq; and 4) exploited by "chickenhawks" who deny that war atrocities happen.

But the truth is, you won't find a single Bush Kool-Aid drinker among the military bloggers, embedded independent journalists and active-duty troops who prominently questioned the Beauchamp sham. They know it ain't all going swimmingly overseas. But unlike Pvt. Beauchamp, they're committed to telling the whole truth about the war, not just approximations and embellishments that will score easy magazine gigs and future book deals with elite New York City publishers. The doubters of Scott Thomas know atrocities when they see them. But, unlike the TNR editors, they know steaming bull dung when they smell it.

Ever since John Kerry sat in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and accused American soldiers of wantonly razing villages "in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan," the Left has embraced a small cadre of self-loathing soldiers and soldier wannabes willing to sell their deadened souls for the anti-war cause. Think Jimmy Massey, the unhinged Marine who falsely accused his unit of engaging in mass genocide against Iraqis. Think Jesse MacBeth and Micah Wright, anti-war Army Rangers who weren't Army Rangers.

Winter Soldier Syndrome will only be cured when the costs of slandering the troops outweigh the benefits. Exposing Scott Thomas Beauchamp and his brethren matters because the truth matters. The honor of the military matters. The credibility of the media matters. Think it doesn't make a difference? Imagine where Sen. John Kerry would be now if the Internet had been around in 1971.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/9/2007 12:03:09 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Why is there a market for lies?

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/9/2007 1:33:45 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
    And we wonder how Democratic congressmen can lie about a 
vote they lost on the floor of the House -- captured on
CSPAN for all the world to see -- changing the vote so
that they win.

Absolutely fabulist

By Ann Coulter
Townhall.com Columnists
Wednesday, August 8, 2007

In their latest demonstration of how much they love the troops, liberals have produced yet another anti-war hoax.

The New Republic has been running "true war" stories from a brave, anonymous liberal penning dispatches from Iraq. The famed "Baghdad Diarist" described his comrades joyfully using Bradley fighting vehicles to crush stray dogs, mocking a female whose face had been blown off by an IED, and defacing Iraqi corpses by wearing skull parts on their own heads.

Various conservatives began questioning the plausibility of the anonymous diarist's account -- noting, for example, that Bradley vehicles don't "swerve," as the diarist claimed. The editor of The New Republic responded by attacking the skeptics' motives, complaining that some conservatives make "a living denying any bad news that emanates from Iraq."

But when that clever retort failed to quiet rumblings from the right wing, The New Republic finally revealed the "Baghdad Diarist" to be ... John Kerry! Actually it was Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp, Democratic candidate for president circa 2028. (That gives him 20 years to learn to pronounce "Genghis.")

In revealing himself two weeks ago, Beauchamp lashed out at "people who have never served in Iraq." He said he was too busy fighting "an actual war" to participate in "an ideological battle that I never wanted to join."

He had tried to stay out of ideological battles by writing made-up articles in a national magazine claiming soldiers in Iraq had become callous beasts because of George Bush's war, killing to "secure the riches of the empire." Alas, this proved an ineffective method of keeping his head low. Beauchamp's next bid for privacy will be an attempt to host "The Price Is Right."

In response to Beauchamp's revelation that he was the "Baghdad Diarist," the military opened an investigation into his allegations. There was no corroboration for his stories, and Beauchamp promptly signed an affidavit admitting that every single thing he wrote in The New Republic was a lie.

According to The Weekly Standard's Michael Goldfarb -- who has led the charge of those who "make a living denying any bad news that emanates from Iraq" -- Maj. Steven F. Lamb, the deputy public affairs officer for Multi-National Division-Baghdad, said this of the Baghdad diarist:
    "An investigation has been completed and the allegations 
made by Pvt. Beauchamp were found to be false. His platoon
and company were interviewed and no one could substantiate
the claims."
In response, The New Republic went into full Dan Rather loon mode. This astonishing post showed up on The New Republic Web site on Tuesday afternoon:


<<< "A STATEMENT ON SCOTT THOMAS BEAUCHAMP:

"We've talked to military personnel directly involved in the events that Scott Thomas Beauchamp described, and they corroborated his account as detailed in our statement. When we called Army spokesman Maj. Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation that Beauchamp had recanted his articles in a sworn statement, he told us, 'I have no knowledge of that.' He added, 'If someone is speaking anonymously (to The Weekly Standard), they are on their own.' When we pressed Lamb for details on the Army investigation, he told us, 'We don't go into the details of how we conduct our investigations.' -- The Editors" >>>

It's good to see Mary Mapes is working again.

What on earth is going on? Either the military investigation found that Beauchamp lied or it didn't. Either military personnel corroborated stories of soldiers wearing skulls as crowns or they didn't. Either Army spokesman Maj. Steven Lamb gave a statement to The Weekly Standard or he didn't.

At the same time as The New Republic was posting the above statement, which completely contradicted The Weekly Standard's update, renowned right-wing news outlet ABC News confirmed that the military has concluded that Beauchamp was writing "fiction." ABC also quoted Goldfarb's account and said that Maj. Lamb reiterated his statement that Beauchamp's stories were false to ABC. The New York Times had the same story on Wednesday.

The New Republic has gone mad. Perhaps the magazine brought its former employee, fantasist Steven Glass, out of retirement. It's long past time for The New Republic to file for intellectual Chapter 7. Arthur Andersen was implicated in fewer frauds.

And we wonder how Democratic congressmen can lie about a vote they lost on the floor of the House -- captured on CSPAN for all the world to see -- changing the vote so that they win.

America's imminent victory in Iraq and safety from terrorist attacks at home is driving them all crazy.

Ann Coulter is the legal correspondent for Human Events and author of Godless: The Church of Liberalism .

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/10/2007 12:03:42 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
One of TNR's Experts... Refutes TNR

The truth about Bradley Fighting Vehicles.

by Michael Goldfarb
The Weekly Standard
08/09/2007

JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT it couldn't get worse for the New Republic, Bob Owens reveals what can only be described as a serious deception by the magazine's editors in their statement corroborating Beauchamp's "Shock Troops" article.

In delivering the findings of the magazine's investigation, the editors had stated,


<<< The last section of the Diarist described soldiers using Bradley Fighting Vehicles to kill dogs. On this topic, one soldier who witnessed the incident described by Beauchamp, wrote in an e-mail: "How you do this (I've seen it done more than once) is, when you approach the dog in question, suddenly lurch the Bradley on the opposite side of the road the dog is on. The rear-end of the vehicle will then swing TOWARD the animal, scaring it into running out into the road. If it works, the dog is running into the center of the road as the driver swings his yoke back around the other way, and the dog becomes a chalk outline." TNR contacted the manufacturer of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle System, where a spokesman confirmed that the vehicle is as maneuverable as Beauchamp described. Instructors who train soldiers to drive Bradleys told us the same thing. And a veteran war correspondent described the tendency of stray Iraqi dogs to flock toward noisy military convoys. >>>


Why did TNR not include the name of the spokesman who "confirmed that the vehicle is as maneuverable as Beauchamp described"? Because he did no such thing. Owens tracked down this mystery spokesman, now identified as
Doug Coffey, head of Communications, Land & Armaments, for BAE Systems, who, it turns out, had never been shown a copy of Beauchamp's story, and who was only asked, in his words, "general questions about vehicle specifications." Owens showed Coffey a copy of the article, and put the question to him: Can the Bradley be operated in the manner described by Beauchamp? His answer, it turns out, was no different than that offered by the Worldwide Standard's own expert, Stuart Koehl, who initially stated that such a maneuver would be virtually impossible, and further that it is inconceivable that such behavior would be tolerated.

Here's Coffey:


<<< I can't pretend to know what may or may not have happened in Iraq but the impression the writer leaves is that a "driver" can go on joy rides with a 35 ton vehicle at will. The vehicle has a crew and a commander of the vehicle who is in charge. In order for the scenario described to have taken place, there would have to have been collaboration by the entire crew.

The driver's vision, even if sitting in an open hatch is severely restricted along the sides. He sits forward on the left side of the vehicle. His vision is significantly impaired along the right side of the vehicle which makes the account to "suddenly swerve to the right" and actually catch an animal suspect. If you were to attempt the same feat in your car, it would be very difficult and you have the benefit of side mirrors.

Anyone familiar with tracked vehicles knows that turning sharply requires the road wheels on the side of the turn to either stop or reverse as the road wheels on the opposite side accelerates. What may not be obvious is that the track once on the ground, doesn't move. The road wheels roll across it but the track itself is stationary until it is pushed forward by the road wheels.

The width of the track makes it highly unlikely that running over a dog would leave two intact parts. One half of the dog would have to be completely crushed.

It also seems suspicious that a driver could go on repeated joy rides or purposefully run into things. Less a risk to the track though that is certainly possible but there is sensitive equipment on the top of the vehicle, antennas, sights, TOW missile launcher, commander and if it was a newer vehicle, the commander's independent viewer, not to mention the main gun. Strange things are known to happen in a combat environment but I can't imagine that the vehicle commander or the unit commander would tolerate repeated misuse of the vehicle, especially any action that could damage its ability to engage. >>>


To repeat: A dog could not have been cut in half as Beauchamp described--and that according to the New Republic's own expert--one half of the dog "would have to be completely crushed." Coffey uses words like suspicious, suspect, and unlikely--yet the New Republic did not see fit to print Coffey's concerns. In fact, they didn't even see fit to show Coffey the original article.

And what of all their other unnamed experts? Why does the New Republic feel compelled to grant them anonymity when they can't possibly fear retribution?

Michael Goldfarb is online editor at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/10/2007 11:08:17 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
    We already knew from all of America’s armed conflicts — 
including Iraq — what war can make men do. The only thing
we learn from Scott Thomas Beauchamp is what literary
ambition can make men say.

Stephen Glass Goes to War

Why did The New Republic run it?

By Charles Krauthammer
National Review Online

For a month, the veracity of The New Republic’s Scott Thomas Beauchamp, the Army private who has been sending dispatches from the front in Iraq, has been in dispute. His latest “Baghdad Diarist” (July 13) recounted three incidents of American soldiers engaged in acts of unusual callousness. The stories were meant to shock. And they did.

In one, the driver of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle amused himself by running over dogs, crippling and killing them. In another, a fellow soldier wore on his head and under his helmet a part of a child’s skull dug from a grave. The most ghastly tale, however, was about the author himself mocking a woman that he said he saw “nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq.” She was horribly disfigured, half her face melted by a roadside bomb. As she sat nearby, Beauchamp said loudly, “I love chicks that have been intimate — with IEDs. It really turns me on — melted skin, missing limbs, plastic noses.” As his mess hall buddy doubled over in laughter, Beauchamp continued: “In fact, I was thinking of getting some girls together and doing a photo shoot. Maybe for a calendar? ‘IED Babes.’” The woman fled.

After some commentators and soldiers raised questions about the plausibility of these tales, both the Army and The New Republic investigated. The Army issued a statement saying flatly that the stories were false. The New Republic claims that it had corroboration from unnamed soldiers. The Weekly Standard quoted an anonymous military source as saying that Beauchamp himself signed a statement recanting what he had written.

Amid these conflicting claims, one issue is not in dispute. When The New Republic did its initial investigation, it admitted that Beauchamp had erred on one “significant detail.” The disfigured woman incident happened not in Iraq, but in Kuwait.

That means it all happened before Beauchamp arrived in Iraq. But the whole point of that story was to demonstrate how the war had turned an otherwise sensitive soul into a monster.
Indeed, in the precious, highly self-conscious literary style of an aspiring writer trying out for a New Yorker gig, Beauchamp follows the terrible tale of his cruelty to the disfigured woman by asking, “Am I a monster?” And answering with satisfaction that the very fact that he could ask this question after (the reader has been led to believe) having been so hardened and brutalized by war, shows that there is a kernel of humanity left in him.

But oh, how much was lost. In the past, you see, he was a sensitive soul with “compassion for those with disabilities.” In a particularly treacly passage, he tells us he once worked in a summer camp with disabled children and in college helped a colleague with cerebral palsy. Then this delicate compassionate youth is transformed into an unfeeling animal by war.

Except that it is now revealed that the mess hall incident happened before he even got to the war. On which point, the whole story — and the whole morality tale it was meant to suggest — collapses.

And it makes the rest of the narrative banal and uninteresting. It’s the story of a disgusting human being, a mocker of the disfigured, who then goes to Iraq, and, as such human beings are wont to do, finds the company of other such human beings who kill dogs for sport, wear the bones of dead children on their heads, and find amusement in mocking the disfigured.

We will soon learn if there actually was a dog killer or a bone wearer. But The New Republic seems not to have understood how the Kuwait “detail” undermines everything. After all, what made the purported story interesting enough to publish? Why did The New Republic run it?

Because it fits perfectly into the most virulent narrative of the antiwar Left.
The Iraq war — “George Bush’s war,” as even Hillary Clinton, along with countless others who had actually endorsed the war, now calls it — has not only caused the sorrow and destruction that we read about every day. It has, most perniciously, caused invisible damage — now made visible by the soul-searching of one brave and gifted private: It has perverted and corrupted the young soldiers who went to Iraq, and now return morally ruined. Young soldiers like Scott Thomas Beauchamp.

We already knew from all of America’s armed conflicts — including Iraq — what war can make men do. The only thing we learn from Scott Thomas Beauchamp is what literary ambition can make men say.

©2007, The Washington Post Writers Group

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To: Sully- who wrote (27537)8/10/2007 11:28:05 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
All the Soldiers Refute All the Claims. All of them.

By podcasts@redstate.com (Redstate Network) on War

Others, like Jeff, will I'm sure say more better than I, but the day should not get too far gone without mentioning this AP report:

<<< The Army said this week it had concluded an investigation of Beauchamp's claims and found them false.

"During that investigation, all the soldiers from his unit refuted all claims that Pvt. Beauchamp made in his blog,"
Sgt. 1st Class Robert Timmons, a spokesman in Baghdad for the 4th Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, based at Fort Riley, Kan., said in an e-mail interview. >>>

The New Republic used Scott Thomas Beauchamp used the New Republic to expound on how war turns all soldiers into rogue cretins. All those soldiers, at least the ones Scott Thomas Beauchamp served with, have now refuted all of Scott Thomas Beauchamp's claims.

Are all the soldiers liars or just Scott Thomas Beauchamp? And if all soldiers are liars, isn't Scott Thomas Beauchamp, a soldier himself, a liar? Or are only those soldiers Scott Thomas Beauchamp serves with day in and day out sharing the same experiences liars?

TheNew Republic still has a lot of explaining to do.

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