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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (237174)	7/20/2007 3:28:42 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If on the other hand they keep to themselves, then they are not indigenous until several generations have been raised in the country What's the magic about several generations? You are conflating two different characteristics, location and culture, by assuming that assimilation happens on the same schedule for everybody. But it doesn't. For some groups, one generation is enough; for others 10 generations is insufficient. Let's say the immigrants keep totally to themselves and make every effort to retain their original immigrant culture unchanged, like the Mennonites. By your definition then of cultural location, the Mennonites aren't indigenous to America yet, they are still German. Now applying your logic to the Jews, we get different answers depending on the degrees of assimilation. There have always been some religious Jews who have been unusually good at retaining cultural separation for hundreds and even thousands of years. Of those, we would have to say that they remain indigenous to the original homeland of the Jews, which is Israel. Of the others, who have more or less assimilated, you would say that they are indigenous to wherever they have assimilated to - which is America, modern Israel, Russia, the Mahgreb, Iraq or Iran, to name some of the largest points of origin for Jews alive today.