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To: Jaknik2 who wrote (212633)7/19/2007 9:56:59 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793974
 
Privacy and the Nothing to Hide Argument

You say, "Sun, what is your big problem with this issue? If you don't have anything to hide and are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about"

Well, my problem with this specific issue is well explained in these two posts:

Message 23716626
Message 23716118

Feel free to read them raise any issue you have with them.

But I also have a very big problem with your "if you have nothing to hide" argument and others like it. Since I don't want to turn this into a major essay, I am listing my problems with that argument in point form:

* Because the government gets to define what's wrong, and they keep changing the definition.
* If I'm not doing anything wrong, then you have no cause to watch me.
* Because you might do something wrong with my information.
* Who watches the watchers?
* Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Additionally, the implication of your statement is that the government is infallible (or at least very competent) *and* also very benevolent. Whereas in reality the government is made up of power hungry scumbag politicians whose incompetence is only limited by the budget they get to spend.



To: Jaknik2 who wrote (212633)7/19/2007 10:50:32 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793974
 
Jaknik2;

If you don't have anything to hide and are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about

And what happens when the next president which might be Hillary is elected? Will you give the same lame defense then?

steve