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To: Taro who wrote (343888)	7/22/2007 7:41:33 AM
From: steve harris	Respond to of 1574002

Dang, now I'll have to work on my list some more!

To: Taro who wrote (343888)	7/22/2007 9:08:18 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574002

I guess I am not a good liberal, then. Instead of a point by point breakdown, I will comment on this one. "4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding." Now Taro, I thought you were better educated than that. You have to be aware that much of the existing art, especially paintings and sculpture, was funded by either the Catholic church or by rich patrons. If the artist could secure enough of that work, then they could practice and develop their technique by doing other stuff. But their bread and butter was paid for by the equivalent of federal funding.

To: Taro who wrote (343888)	7/22/2007 9:49:31 AM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574002

18. You have to believe that conservatives who post lists of "liberal beliefs" are assholes.

To: Taro who wrote (343888)	7/22/2007 5:04:28 PM
From: zonkie	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1574002

A few things republicans devoutly believe ..... 1. Jesus loves you, but shares your deep hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton. 2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, but our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq. 3."Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India. 4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation. 5. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery. 6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay. 7. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins, unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican. 8. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex. 9. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, but then demand their cooperation and money. 10. HMOs and insurance companies make profits and have the interest of the public at heart. 11. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism. 12. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. 13. It is okay that the Bush family's "Carlisle Group" has done millions of business with the Bin Laden family. 14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him and Rumsfeld reassured him he was our buddy, a bad guy when Bush's father made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, but then a bad guy again when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president". 15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying about WMD existence, to enlist support for an unprovoked, undeclared war and occupation, in which thousands of soldiers and civilians die, is, somehow, solid "defense" policy in a "War against Terrorism". 16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which should include "banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet". 17. The public has a right to know about Hillary Clinton's cattle trades, but George Bush's Harken Oil stock trade should be sealed in his father's library, and is none of our business. 18. What Bill Clinton or John Kerry did in the 1960s was of vital national interest but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant. 19. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a "spirit of international harmony". 20. Affirmative Action is wrong, but that it is OK for your father and his friends (here and in Saudi Arabia) to get you to graduate from Yale without studying much, to dodge the draft in the Texas Air National Guard, to bail out your company Harken Oil and the Texas Rangers, to get the Governorship of Texas and then to have the Supreme Court appoint you President of the US. 21. You are a conservative, but it is OK to spend like there is no tomorrow and run up deficits that your grandchildren will have to pay, while at the same time refunding as much tax money as possible to rich people who do not need it.

To: Taro who wrote (343888)	7/23/2007 2:34:50 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574002

Taro, I especially like #15: > 15. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge. Ted already confirmed that belief: Message 23695299 Tenchusatsu

To: Taro who wrote (343888)	7/23/2007 3:15:52 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1574002

Fuck the South and neoconservatives. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep. And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really? Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard? No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off. Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch. All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice. The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes. Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part. But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, assholes. Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass. And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off. fuckthesouth.com