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To: skinowski who wrote (213089)7/22/2007 9:41:34 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 794268
 
Interesting that shaheed means witness in Arabic. The etymology of martyr suggests that it is derived from the Greek word for the same thing.

etymonline.com



To: skinowski who wrote (213089)7/23/2007 6:53:10 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794268
 
All we ever wanted to know, and then some.

It seems we have the same problem with "shaheed" as with "martyr" in that there are "good" shaheed as well as "bad" shaheed. Using "shaheed" just for the murderous variety is a distortion of the word. Rather like "jihad," which we tend to use to mean the "bad" jihad although the term correctly encompasses both. Whether we use "martyr" or "shaheed," we would need a modifier to be fully clear.