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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344024)7/23/2007 8:59:59 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573682
 
Ten, you're just SO fearful! Too fearful to even LOOK at universal healthcare on the big screen..

It WILL happen. It won't be perfect. They'll be plenty to bitch about. But overall, it will be a better system. What we have now is dysfunctional and broken.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344024)7/23/2007 9:05:17 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573682
 
"Politicians don't have tenure and they get paid more. It's also a little different for them, too."

And they are answerable to the voters. I am guessing you think you have point here, but...

"Either way, the bureaucratic system ensures that seniority and preservation of votes/budgets win out over performance."

If the current system was influenced by performance, you'd have a point. As it stands, well...

One thing the present system isn't amenable to is influence by anyone but the insurance companies. And they do what is best for their stockholders. So it should be no surprise that costs keep going up.

"The problems with the current system, while substantial, would pale in comparison to the problems with universal health care"

You've never really explained what is unique about the American system that those problems would manifest here and no one else has them to the magnitude that you hypothesize would happen. You just wave your hands and mumble about bureaucratic red tape. Which we already have, worse than many countries. You want bureaucrats, just look at Germany. You'd think they invented them. Yet their health care system is a lot more responsive than ours. Doctors make house calls there. Or, at least that one did when my mother in law fell ill. That doesn't happen here.

So to make your hypotheses work, you have to come up with some reason why it would be worse in the US. Waving your hands and saying "because" doesn't really work.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344024)7/24/2007 12:40:22 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573682
 
> So now you defend the present system?

The problems with the current system, while substantial, would pale in comparison to the problems with universal health care.


You know that how?

Of course, you don't know that......you are simply spouting the party line. The same party that has gotten us into the current mess.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344024)7/24/2007 12:52:12 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573682
 
>The problems with the current system, while substantial, would pale in comparison to the problems with universal health care.

I just don't understand how you can make statements like this over and over when objectively, other than for maybe the top couple of percent of citizens, the systems of other industrialized countries are better!

-Z