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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (103837)7/24/2007 8:49:54 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
"Not from extremists, from within. Virtually none of the parties that make up the parliament would support the Maliki government if we left. They're just operating within the existing framework (which we dictated by force) biding their time.

The culture that exists was grown under Saddam. People don't really have a great trust in the idea of a fair and just government of their own. Of course they like the idea, every body likes the idea of liberty. Believing it will work is another thing. How realistic is it? Well if they listen to extremists like you, not at all. Fortunately, under the current circumstances there are other view points being heard.

The only successes people have experienced in the culture have resulted from brutalizations committed by someone on their side. They trust a strong advocate to get them what they need and they expect people with other interests to try to destroy them. That is what happened under Saddam. Most people would throw their support behind the strongest contender who wouldn't kill them as soon as we left or in regions not currently secure. We've seen it time and time again. When regions are secure and the powerful insurgent groups are subdued we see cooperation and support for the government with some caution about what might happen if their security is put at risk.

Biding their time, may be an accurate descriptor or at least not too far off. Most people have little hope for an autonomous life in Iraq that could result with the National government. Many fear that we will abandon them and that they will be forced to align themselves with a war lord of some sort. They know that as weak as the government is, the other options are not really what they would call preferable. With a stable government and over time, their confidence in a liberal democracy grows, as it has for other fledgling democracies, which probably annoys you.