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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344527)7/27/2007 10:28:15 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1569892
 
Spirits Sag in South Korea at Death of Hostage

By CHOE SANG-HUN
nytimes.com
( BOTH of your countries AND your religion are asking for your service Ten.. )

SEOUL, South Korea, July 26 — Ever since Afghan militants kidnapped 23 South Korean aid workers last week, people here have reacted with shock, disbelief and hope, their mood shifting as news from Afghanistan carried conflicting hints about the hostages’ fate.

On Thursday, the national mood reached its lowest point. The government confirmed what millions of South Koreans following the news overnight had hoped would not be true: that a bullet-riddled body found in southern Afghanistan, where the Taliban said they had abandoned it, was indeed that of a South Korean.

Bae Hyung-kyu, a Christian pastor with a big smile who left a wife and 9-year-old daughter behind, was found dead on Wednesday, his 42nd birthday. Many members of the Saemmul Presbyterian Church, to which Mr. Bae and 19 other hostages belonged, wept. They had prayed for the safe return of the hostages. When the news about Mr. Bae came, some were seen on local television hugging one another in tears, some collapsing on the floor.

“The organization responsible for the abduction will be held accountable for taking the life of a Korean citizen,” said Baek Jong-chun, chief secretary for security and foreign policy for President Roh Moo-hyun.

As Mr. Roh’s special envoy, Mr. Baek flew to Kabul on Thursday to work with the Afghan government to try to free the rest of the South Koreans, who have been held since their bus was hijacked on a road south of Kabul last Thursday.

Mr. Baek’s comment appeared to take a stronger stance than the South Korean government’s earlier appeals to the Taliban. But Chun Ho-sun, a spokesman for Mr. Roh, said Thursday that Seoul opposed military operations to rescue the hostages. He also reiterated that South Korea would withdraw its 200 military medics and engineers from Afghanistan by the end of the year as scheduled.

The Taliban threatened to kill more hostages if its demands for the release of an equal number of Taliban prisoners were not met. After conflicting reports on Wednesday that eight of the hostages were to be released, Mr. Chun said Thursday that the authorities believed 22, including 18 women, were still being held. “We resumed the negotiations this morning and there are a lot of efforts going on, but so far we have not reached any final conclusion,” Waheedullah Mujadeddi, an Afghan official involved in the talks, said Thursday. “The Taliban says they are alive, and that’s why we resumed the negotiations.”

Qari Yousef Ahmadi, who says he is a spokesman for the Taliban, said Thursday that the 22 remaining hostages were alive, and that the deadline for the release of the prisoners had been extended to noon on Friday, Agence France-Presse reported.

Television stations in South Korea carried running updates on the situation. In this highly wired country, where the Internet has emerged as a major channel of public opinion, people posted Web messages lamenting Mr. Bae’s death and praying for the release of the other hostages. But many also criticized churches for sending young people to countries like Afghanistan.

“After Reverend Bae’s death, we are more concerned about our family members,” said Che Mi-sook, the sister of a hostage, Che Chang-hee, reading a joint statement from relatives of the hostages. “Many of us suffer a heart pain, and this is a pain that any parent and anyone who has a family will understand.”

For South Koreans, this new crisis represents the cost of the aid and evangelical operations that its Christian churches conduct in some of the world’s most dangerous places.

In 2004, a South Korean interpreter and aspiring Christian missionary was beheaded by militants in Iraq.

Several South Korean missionaries have served time in or remain in Chinese prisons, accused of trying to convert North Korean refugees or for smuggling them to South Korea. One missionary, who was kidnapped by North Korean agents in 2000, is believed to have died in the North.

With 12,000 to 17,000 evangelists in more than 160 countries, South Korea has one of the most aggressive armies of Christian missionaries on earth. Only the United States sends out more — 46,000 by some estimates.

A conservative association of Protestant churches in South Korea has called for dispatching 100,000 missionaries by 2030. Along with those full-time missionaries, South Korean churches dispatch numerous evangelical, educational and medical missions. Saemmul Church has stressed that Mr. Bae’s group was not engaged in evangelism, but was doing only relief work at hospitals and kindergartens.

Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344527)7/27/2007 7:31:52 PM
From: Road Walker  Respond to of 1569892
 
New "Last Supper" theory crashes Leonardo Web sites Fri Jul 27, 12:51 PM ET


A new theory that Leonardo's "Last Supper" might hide within it a depiction of Christ blessing the bread and wine has triggered so much interest that Web sites connected to the picture have crashed.

The famous fresco is already the focus of mythical speculation after author Dan Brown based his "The Da Vinci Code" book around the painting, arguing in the novel that Jesus married his follower, Mary Magdelene, and fathered a child.

Now Slavisa Pesci, an information technologist and amateur scholar, says superimposing the "Last Supper" with its mirror-image throws up another picture containing a figure who looks like a Templar knight and another holding a small baby.

"I came across it by accident, from some of the details you can infer that we are not talking about chance but about a precise calculation," Pesci told journalists when he unveiled the theory earlier this week.

Websites www.leonardodavinci.tv, www.codicedavinci.tv, www.cenacolo.biz and www.leonardo2007.com had 15 million hits on Thursday morning alone, organizers said, adding they were trying to provide a more powerful server for the sites.

In the superimposed version, a figure on Christ's left appears to be cradling a baby in its arms, Pesci said, but he made no suggestion this could be Christ's child.

Judas, whose imminent betrayal of Christ is the force breaking the right-hand line of the original fresco, appears in an empty space on the left in the reverse image version.

And Pesci also suggests that the superimposed version shows a goblet before Christ and illustrates when Christ blessed bread and wine at a supper with his disciples for the first Eucharist.

The original Da Vinci depicts Christ when he predicts that one among them will betray him.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344527)7/29/2007 12:23:47 PM
From: Road Walker  Respond to of 1569892
 
Could Christian vote desert Republicans?

news.bbc.co.uk

By Matt Wells
BBC News, New York
Published: 2007/07/27 08:52:41 GMT

America's so-called "religious right" has been one of the pillars of Republican Party support in recent decades, but signs are emerging that those once secure foundations might be shifting.

In both George W Bush's presidential victories, he managed to secure a vast majority of the evangelical Christian vote.

In 2004, the "hot button" policies curtailing abortion and same-sex marriage were seen as being crucial to Republican electoral success in, for example, the key swing states of Ohio and Florida.

But in last November's Congressional races - where Democrats regained control of both the House and the Senate - some Republican defeats came at the hands of a new religiously-inspired movement, which some are calling the "evangelical left".

Switching allegiance?

The reality may be that the new movement is more centrist - and fed-up with being lumped in with the orthodox religious right leadership.

It is not so much that swathes of once Republican-supporting evangelicals are switching allegiance but more a question of taking a sceptical look at the narrow agenda that has defined their relationship with the Republican Party, according to John Green, of the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

This whole thing is not a struggle over ideology, it's a struggle over power
Pastor Joel Hunter

"Questions like climate change, poverty and international human rights are coming to the fore, in a community that didn't used to talk about these things at all," Mr Green said.

Evidence of a subtle realignment, can be seen in the main sanctuary of Northland Church, in Orlando, Florida - a space that used to be a roller-skating rink until it was taken over by Pastor Joel Hunter.

The conservatively-dressed but sprightly mid-Westerner serves a 7,000-strong congregation that broadcasts its services live to thousands more on the internet.

He recently wrote a book called "Right Wing, Wrong Bird" outlining his concerns, and hopes for the future.

"There has to emerge a new constituency and a new set of leaders for the evangelical Christians in this country," he told the BBC Heart and Soul programme.

Power struggle

"We want to build a culture of life - but that includes the vulnerable outside the womb, as well as the vulnerable inside the womb.

"We've had too long a time where we make people who disagree with us into enemies," he added.

"I think that's not Christ-like or even intelligent. This whole thing is not a struggle over ideology, it's a struggle over power."

The call to broaden the agenda as the campaign for the White House intensifies is looked on with dismay just a few miles from Northland Church by activists who still back the fundamentalist strategies of the religious right.

John Stemberger is an attorney and president of the Florida Family Planning Council, who respects Joel Hunter's conservative credentials, but not his argument.

"The institutions of marriage and the family are under attack," he said.

"The problem with the religious left is that they are helping the party that we believe is going to reverse the flow.

"None of us think the Republicans are saints ... but you have to pick a party in order to play the game, and be successful in enacting policy in our country."

I think in many cases they (the religious right) have become intoxicated with a taste of power
Mike Huckabee, Republican presidential candidate

The politicians most affected by fissures among conservative religious voters, are the Republican presidential candidates vying for their support.

Mike Huckabee is a former governor of Arkansas and a Baptist minister.

Despite his religious credentials, he is trailing far behind the current front-runner, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

It is a sign of the complex new relationship between the religious right and the Republicans that Mr Giuliani, who is dubbed "America's Mayor", is doing all he can to avoid talking about his own Catholicism, mindful perhaps that thrice-married candidates can hardly be strong on personal morality issues.

'Blowing bridges up'

Mr Huckabee is disillusioned by the behaviour of the religious right leadership.

He said: "I think in many cases, they've become intoxicated with a taste of power.

"They like it - they're now looking at 'well, who's going to win, because we want to make sure that we're attached to the inevitable winner,'" he told the BBC.

He thinks the religious right could be throwing away its positive influence.

Political affiliation is not as important as what the candidate believes
Gary Whitlock

"If they don't have something about which they are uniquely united ... they really serve no particular purpose," he said.

But back in Florida, the evidence on the ground is that voters who identify strongly with the religious right cannot be taken for granted and will not be told what to think anymore.

Sitting with a glass of iced-tea in the spacious home of Gary Whitlock - whose family all worship at Northland Church - he talked about how he had worked tirelessly to get out the vote for George W Bush.

Old certainties have changed and he is not certain that he will be voting Republican in 2008.

He said: "I'm not so sure the political affiliation of the person that's elected is important, so much as what the person who's elected believes.

"What the political process needs to have more of is bridge-builders, rather than people who are blowing bridges up and trying to create chasms between us."

* You can hear this second part of Matt Wells's documentary series on religion and politics in the US, on the BBC World Service's Heart and Soul programme, which airs on July 28. Check your local World Service schedule for transmission times.

© BBC MMVII



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (344527)7/30/2007 6:06:20 PM
From: steve harris  Respond to of 1569892
 
More like: "Mr Parsons, we have the results of your blood test back. Have a seat."