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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (9107)	7/28/2007 10:00:56 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20106

Brian...what is your transparent agenda?

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (9107)	7/28/2007 10:09:46 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Respond to of 20106

Toll from blast near Red Mosque rises to at least 13 Last Updated: Friday, July 27, 2007 \| 7:41 PM ET CBC News cbc.ca A suicide bomber killed at least 13 people and injured 71 others on Friday at a hotel near Islamabad's Lal Masjid, officials said, just hours after riot police clashed with hundreds of religious students at the newly reopened mosque. An injured police officer, middle, is held by his colleagues after a large explosion went off Friday in a hotel in Islamabad, near the site of an angry protest at the Red Mosque. (Anjum Naveed/Associated Press) The blast, which occurred around 5:20 p.m. local time and could be heard across the city, came more than two weeks after a government raid on the fortress-like compound known as the Red Mosque ended with more than 100 people killed. Local television showed victims — many of them bleeding, or badly burned and with their clothes in tatters — being carried from the wreckage and piled into ambulances that had rushed to the Muzaffar Hotel, about a half-kilometre from the mosque. Javed Iqbal Cheema, a senior Interior Ministry official, said seven police were among the dead. Kamal Shah, another top Interior Ministry official, said initial reports suggested the attack was targeting police. Earlier Friday, students prevented a government-appointed cleric from leading Friday prayers at the mosque's planned reopening, and called for the return of the mosque's pro-Taliban former chief cleric, Abdul Aziz, who is in government detention. Security forces initially stood by as the crowd shouted slogans against Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, while others defaced the mosque's freshly painted yellow walls with red paint and scrambled to the roof to raise a black flag with the image of two crossed swords. "Musharraf is a dog! He is worse than a dog! He should resign!" the students shouted. Some lingered over the ruins of a neighbouring seminary demolished by authorities this week. Militants had used the seminary to resist government forces involved in siege. The crowd also shouted support for the mosque's former deputy cleric, Abdul Rashid Ghazi, who led the siege until he was shot dead by security forces after refusing to surrender. "Ghazi, your blood will lead to a revolution," the protesters chanted. After protesters disregarded police calls to disperse peacefully, police fired tear gas, scattering the crowd on the road. Police reportedly regained control of the mosque without any major injuries, the Guardian newspaper's Declan Walsh told CBC News on Friday in an interview from Islamabad. 'The blood of martyrs will bear fruit' In a speech at the main entrance to the mosque, Liaqat Baloch, deputy leader of a coalition of hardline religious parties, the Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), condemned Musharraf as a "killer" and declared there would be an Islamic revolution in Pakistan. "Abdul Aziz is still the prayer leader of the mosque. The blood of martyrs will bear fruit. This struggle will reach its destination of an Islamic revolution. Musharraf is a killer of the constitution. He's a killer of male and female students. The entire world will see him hang," Baloch said. Pakistan's Geo television showed scenes of pandemonium inside the mosque, with dozens of young men in traditional Islamic clothing and prayer caps shouting angrily and punching the air with their hands. Friday's reopening was meant to help ease tensions over the siege, which triggered a flare-up in militant attacks on security forces and widespread anger that a religious site had been the scene of violence. Public skepticism still runs high over the government's accounting of how many people died in the mosque siege, with many still claiming a large number of children and religious students were among the dead. The government says the overwhelming majority were militants. Militants holed up in the mosque compound for a week before government troops launched their assault on July 10, leaving it pocked with bullet holes and damaged by explosions. At least 102 people were killed in the violence, according to the government. Attacks by militants in northwestern Pakistan along the border with Afghanistan have surged since the siege, killing about 200 others, many of them security forces, in suicide bombings and clashes. With files from the Associated Press

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (9107)	7/28/2007 2:39:49 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20106

" What is my "work"? And what is the "transparent agenda" I have?" This thread and those who support has a vary basic agenda. 1) You have convinced yourselves that Islam and Muslims are a threat to you. It doesn't matter why, your reasons are diverse. But you agree it is a threat that must be eliminated. Not just those heinous criminals who are brutalizing each other in foreign lands but every Muslim on the face of the earth comes under an occasional and fairly regular target of this thread. True or false? I don't think you would even want to deny that, but it wouldn't surprise me to see you try. 2. You, brian, regularly post articles exposing the heinous and brutal conduct committed by Muslims. True or False. 3. Your articles representing conduct and events that are evil in nature and which I am happy to join you in condemning. Others in your little group extrapolate from those events declarations that Islam and all Muslims must be held accountable and must be defeated even exterminated. You encourage those posters every chance you get. True or false? Seems true enough to me. 4. Members of this thread regularly misrepresent me and innocent muslims in all kinds of stretchy interpretations; from making assumptions about intent to do you and yours harm to having vile and/or perverted secret lives. True or false. Absolutely true. 5. When called on it you and they disingenuously deny anything but being a source of news, or you and they refer back to some awful thing somebody else in the world is doing, as if that absolves your responsibility. 6. Ok, bottom line is the perspective that Islam and Muslims as an enemy that threatens your destruction. All of them. There are fundamental flaws in that view which your can't totally get around. But in order to justify the attitudes that are expressed here you have to project that view pervasively and continually. Its called projection and that is what is done here day in day out. 7. If this thread were simply a news source specializing in attrocities committed in the name of Islam, I would have no objection. Your claim that it is simply that exposes you as a currupt and bigoted fraud. Fact.