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To: one_less who wrote (9175)7/29/2007 8:46:15 AM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 20106
 
The FACTS speak for themselves:

Message 23588841

Pew Poll’s fast fade from the front pages
Jewish Ledger ^ | Tuesday, May 29, 2007

jewishledger.com

Last week didn’t seem to be an inordinately busy news week. There was the normal amount of domestic stories and exposes and all the negative news the media could dig up out of Iraq. The one big story, immigration, will be with us for a while as politicians use the issue for political posturing before having to actually deal with it. Yes, there was violence in Gaza and Sderot and some good news about the surge in Iraq, but those things rarely get much space or last longer than a day or two. A pretty normal week.

That’s why we were surprised that what we thought was the momentous story of the previous week didn’t extend further than its initial mention. The Pew Poll of the attitudes of Muslims living in America revealed the alarming extent of their discontent and disconnect with our culture. Except for superficial front-page exposure for a day or two, Pew seems to have gone away. The Connecticut Jewish Ledger isn’t the place where you usually get this kind of news, but in the absence of it elsewhere, we thought we’d review a few of the Poll’s findings.

Up until this survey, no one has authoritatively detailed the Muslim population in the United States. There’ve been estimates and assertions, but Pew was the first to do the work of counting heads with standard polling methods. The numbers they came up were not derived from other sources.

After years of blustering from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Pew tells us there are probably around 2.35 million Muslims here, most arriving since 1990. That’s about a third of the 7 million-8 million figure that CAIR throws around when it tries to make the case for robust Muslim political power. Investor’s Daily captured the essence of this revelation when it said that the population number that we’ve come to accept is the “Wahhabi lobby’s big lie. CAIR couldn’t deliver even 2 million voters if it tried. According to Pew, just 1.5 million Muslims are of voting age.”

Also important is what 25 percent of Muslim males between the ages of 18 and 29 think about using violence to make a point. Victor Davis Hansen says the poll tells us “one of four young Muslim Americans expressed approval of the tactic of suicide bombing.” Pew doesn’t say that there are some 200,000 believers who are ready to strap on explosives and blow up school busses and restaurants as do their soul mates in places like Israel, Bombay, London or Spain, but it tells us there are around 200,000 simpatico with the idea. This is more than enough to provide a sea (using Mao Tse-tung’s analogy), in which these true believers can swim. Our own home grown malcontents, acting individually, have given us massacres like Columbine and Virginia Tech, and in those instances there weren’t thousands on the sidelines ready to nurture and nourish them while they planned and prepared their coming atrocities.

One more finding: 60 percent of the Muslims polled said they didn’t believe that Arabs were responsible for blowing up the World Trade Center on September 11. Hansen: “Six of 10 assured us [Pew] that no Arab Muslim was involved in September 11. Mr. Atta, you see, still lives in that apartment in Cairo with his loving father… (the poll’s) findings translate into many hundreds of thousands of Muslims living the good life here in the United States…who are either unhinged or favor the ideology of suicide bombing.”

We thought this startling information, so why the fast fade from the front pages? Columnist Diana West says that the mainstream media is so wedded to its multicultural belief systems that it can’t bring itself to recognize what numbers like these say. “Multiculturalism preaches that all civilizations are the same, all religions are the same, all peoples are the same. The Pew results, meanwhile, tell them something else again.”



To: one_less who wrote (9175)7/29/2007 8:46:57 AM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 20106
 
And one more.....

Some US Muslims justify suicide attacks (25 percent)
Yahoo ^ | 5/22/07

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WASHINGTON - One in four younger U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances, though most Muslim Americans overwhelmingly reject the tactic and are critical of Islamic extremism and al-Qaida, a poll says.

The survey by the Pew Research Center, one of the most exhaustive ever of the country's Muslims, revealed a community that in many ways blends comfortably into society. Its largely mainstream members express nearly as much happiness with their lives and communities as the general public does, show a broad willingness to adopt American customs, and have income and education levels similar to others in the U.S.

Even so, the survey revealed noteworthy pockets of discontent.

While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.

That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely.

"It is a hair-raising number," said Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, which promotes the compatibility of Islam with democracy.

He said most supporters of the attacks likely assumed the context was a fight against occupation — a term Muslims often use to describe the conflict with Israel.

U.S. Muslims have growing Internet and television access to extreme ideologies, he said, adding: "People, especially younger people, are susceptible to these ideas."

Federal officials have warned that the U.S. must be on guard against homegrown terrorism, as the British suffered with the London transit bombings of 2005.

Even so, U.S. Muslims are far less accepting of suicide attacks than Muslims in many other nations. In surveys Pew conducted last year, support in some Muslim countries exceeded 50 percent, while it was considered justifiable by about one in four Muslims in Britain and Spain, and one in three in France.

"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam.

Andrew Kohut, Pew director, said in an interview that support for the attacks represented "one of the few trouble spots" in the survey.

At a later news conference, he said much of that support could be attributed to age because the findings were consistent with numerous other surveys showing young people more inclined to violence and to support wars.

The poll briefly describes the rationales for and against "suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets" and then asks, "Do you personally feel that this kind of violence is often justified to defend Islam, sometimes justified, rarely justified, or never justified?"

The question did not specify where a suicide attack might occur, who might carry it out or what was meant by using a bombing to "defend Islam."

In other findings:

_Only 5 percent of U.S. Muslims expressed favorable views of the terrorist group al-Qaida, though about a fourth did not express an opinion.

_Six in 10 said they are concerned about a rise in Islamic extremism in the U.S., while three in four expressed similar worries about extremism around the world.

_Yet only one in four consider the U.S. war on terrorism a sincere attempt to curtail international terror. Only 40 percent said they believe Arab men carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

_By six to one, they say the U.S. was wrong to invade Iraq, while a third say the same about Afghanistan — far deeper than the opposition expressed by the general U.S. public.

_Just over half said it has been harder being a U.S. Muslim since the 9/11 attacks, especially the better educated, higher income, more religious and young. Nearly a third of those who flew in the past year say they underwent extra screening because they are Muslim.

The survey estimates there are roughly 2.35 million Muslim Americans. It found that among adults, two-thirds are from abroad while a fifth are U.S.-born blacks.

By law, the Census Bureau does not ask about people's religions.

Telephone interviews were conducted with 1,050 Muslim adults from January through April, including some in Arabic, Urdu and Farsi. Subjects were chosen at random, from a separate list of households including some with Muslim-sounding names, and from Muslim households that had participated in previous surveys.

The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 5 percentage points.