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To: Ish who wrote (1329)7/30/2007 3:25:51 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17085
 
Well you do take that many components when you eat. Each food contains hundreds of elements, dozens of vitamins, dozens of aminos, dozens of anti-oxidants, enzymes, minerals. I would venture to say that there are an even hundred elements in every foodstuff we consume each day. Or better.

And how many foods do we eat in a single day? 20? more? chocolate, grains, sugar, fruit, vegetables, meat, fish, eggs, milk, juice, tea, .. you probably eat a 1000 things that are contained in the foods. There is no Manna.

But do you think of every day imbibing a chemical 'factory', a myriad of things, a veritable cocktail of semi-poisons and medicines to keep an improbably complex self-repairing machine running that defies the highest science to define or systematically analyse. We have more systems running in us than an oil refinery and of infinitely more byzantine balance. Krebs cycle, endocrine system, digestion, lymphatic, circulation.. each needs its ammunition, and each has its disposal plant..

So diet can be more complex than a computer program in Chinese but therapy has to be this one large gelatin coated pill? uh-huh.. why is that?

So if the engine gets out of whack all it takes is one magic pill and we are off and running again? 20 years of poisons and abuse, wreck the ship on the rocks and all you need to do is 3 days of deep knee bends and drink some absinthe and you are right as rain?

If therapy could use a few elements and a little bit of application it is hardly surprising. I believe we have been too long thinking in medicine that disease is just one thing. Disease is often a process of presentation of one group of symptoms that signifies a whole condition of interrelated and systemic failures have been going on for some time. Some causes may seem singular, as in a virus, but the damage they do is systemic and often involves a host of other things. How often do we hear that a patient went into an operation and it was sucessful but he/she succumbed to a "complication" and another body system became morbidly involved?

Every amino in that list was there for a reason believe it or not. They have an effect. Every one is contained in food. We need 'em or we wouldn't have to eat. But it has been found by research since the 1980's that adding aminos/vitamins as single "extra" substances, whether essential or not, and in some considerable quantity - has pronounced effect on certain conditions that otherwise may resist medical intervention.

Food is the body's daily medicine. It is as complex a mix of things as you could imagine. We aren't cattle. We don't just eat one thing. We call it being omnivores. We seem to have to ingest everything that is edible. When we fall by the health wayside later in life from the excesses and tolls of adulterated diets and unnatural foods, then it is hardly surprising that we have to seek a rebalancing that involves more than a handful of stuff.

I wish there was a way to easily in-store bulk mix and tailor the aminos and vitamins so that what you needed was all in one or two tbspns. You should be able to do it. I believe you can bulk order and mix aminos. That is the whole point of the Weider and other weight-lifting protein formulae. I don't trust their stuff though, and I would like to find organic if I could. Ordering bulk vitamins I am looking for. I know multis are bad but all those bottle are too much money, glycerine and stearate. But for now, and if you have anything seriously wrong, I would say that is your only choice.

What we hear from the popular press time and time again is this study and that study about how some vitamins don't work. That this group too 3 or 4 vitamins for 4 years and surprise! They were worse off than some other group .. hey.. no shit.. what these studies don't know about vitamins would fill the library of congress. The fact is we eat all that we do to get ALL the vitamins not just 3 or 4 of them. They are interbalanced. You cannot take B1 without b6. A without D and E. That is the way it is. A one vitamin study WILL FAIL for sure. And the vitamins are not pure or naturally extracted, they are artificial. That can as we have seen, make a difference. I would NOT take articiial vitamin E. As a matter of fact do not take alpha tocopherol at all. It acts as a toxin, depleting the body of gamma tocopherol. Read Earl Mindell's book, The Vitamin Bible. It will take a month of study to figure just how to take vitamins. And at your age, I would say .. do it.

I believe and it has been said that vitamins should be taken with a food that contains them. I mean you should take a vitamin, say A and you should eat a carrot too. Eat an apple and take vitamin C. And so on. Can't say it is bad can you.. the sense it makes is not clear, but there seem to be an effect... for now it is the realm of witchcraft, but many things in medicine are not clear in their action.. but they seem to work, so doctors pursue their practice.

And time and time again I have heard, "I don't want to be a pill popper. I will just get the stuff in food.." Right. As if. They miss the whole point. Why do you think we are here in the first place! The lousy goddamned factory poisoned crap that we have eaten for the last 40 years. (What they have let money grubbers put in and take out of our food for the past decades just to make a dollar is a federal crime.) I am not saying that eating pills is the ideal. It is far from that. What I am saying is that is a grim choice we MUST make or our health will suffer.

Sure eat a good diet. Sure chow down on anti-ox foods. Sure seek out organic fresh healthy scoff. Balance that diet a al the Mediterranean.. no question. But if you think that eating three square meals a day is going to cure you of heart disease I am going to tell you one last time. De Nile is not just a river in Egypt and that bridge in Brooklyn that only needs painting every ten years and makes a million in tolls each day is only a 100,000 dollars today for a reason. And that reason is you are the biggest consumer sucker to pass this way since the last guy ten minutes ago. You were born to believe the advertising. Wake up. The Coffee is on, and lifestyle illnesses only need to stick around if want to get back on that bus with the sign that says 'Status Quo Avenue'. That bus isn't going anywhere but to the graveyard.

If you want to get over a a long term debilitating condition.. there is a way.. I found out how. I tried it. It does work.

I cannot say for sure fire cure for cancer. It isn't going to make you 6 feet tall if you are presently 5. foot 6. It may not increase your bank account by 6 figures. But I can write down and put in a sealed envelope what it will do FOR SURE... if an ONLY IF, you pursue the whole enchilada.. eat right, exercise right AND supplement RIGHT. I tried it. One point five years of supplements, exercise, eating, vitamins.. did not know what would happen. But I was in serious serious trouble and I knew I had to do something and fast.

I read 4000 articles on the internet and perhaps 50 books on diet, aminos, vitamins, supplements, organic food, heart disease, cancer. Everything I could get my hands one.. there were conflicts, contradictions, varying advice.. there were complications and the stuff was not cheap.. organic food is way more expensive.. double or more. Supplements set you back a bit.. vitamins are complex to apply. different times of day, with food without, certain take with fats other water, others juice, different doses, side effects.. wow.. a real byzantine maze.. would it work? Something had better..

I finally distilled it all down to the basics.. the formulae for losing weight and getting healthy: the right aminos, the necessary cholesterol reducers, anti-oxs.. foodstuffs. what made me feel good, what made the BP go low.. and it was no accident. I did not drop 30% bp, raise HDL by 25%, lose 50 lbs, and lose ALL the symptoms by sheer chance.. what if... the interpretation was RIGHT! Well, I found authors who had hit on JUST what I had found.. amazing! .. and we are talking 30 elements.. not three or four.. and their claim was reduction of plaque by 60%!!! Now I don't know if I achieved that.., but try this. I weighed 280. One year I could work on a drill all day in the hot sun,liftin heavy weiths a 100 times a day. The very next year I had to push on the side of my head strongly to fall asleep. In the morning I wheezed. I could only walk in the bush for a half mile and I had to sit down for an hour. I could only work a 1/2 day. Walking a 1/4 mile in the city was effort. I could hear my breathing. Ischemic attacks were every other week. Big trouble.

So I went on the program. Diet, exercise.. losing weight, aminos, vitamins, organic food..

And you know what.. it worked. 100%. I can now walk 3 miles in the bush.. work all day. BP ideal. no more ischemia..

And I would say I had to do it all. I would say there was an effect. The test show it. Normal blood sugar, liver enzymes, decrease of cholesterol from 6.5 to 4.3, increase in HDL from 0.83 to 1.07. (multiply by 38.7 for US factors) Decrease in BP from 155/95 to 130/80, decrease in weight from 280 to 230. Increase in serum B12 by 3 times. Increase in blood calcium. Decrease in homocysteine, decrease in apoLipoprotein-a.

You don't get all that with one pill and changing the channels on your TV. You have to go to work. The supplements are necessary. Vital. That is why they are called vitamins. The word comes from the phrase VITAL AMINES, because at first that was what they were thought of as. Aminos that we desperately needed. And the most important group that was awarded the Nobel prize for in 1936 were the bioflavonoids.. Vitamin P. Forgotten for 50 years and now rediscovered. Food colouring agents and preservatives invented by nature for bumblebees and flowers and found to be medicines for man. Eat an orange and an onion. You are into vitamin P.

Good hunting.

EC<:-}



To: Ish who wrote (1329)7/31/2007 3:15:10 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17085
 
Those aminos I listed are brain activators. ditto the omega-3's.

Don't take phenylalanine if you drink diet drinks. The aspartame can overdose and cause real problems. take it easy on that one, or relax on it completely, but the others are safe.

Diet drinks for that reason are bad for your brain. Ditto anything with sodium glutamate in it.

Read Eric Braverman's The Healing Nutrients Within.

Amazon has it.



Also Chaitow - Amino Acids in Therapy



Another very good one for alpha waves is L-theanine. It is found in tea. If you ever get coffee nerves have a cup of tea or take the L-theanine.

EC<:-}