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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (12269)	7/29/2007 8:04:19 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 224744

they are all losers. Not a one is qualified to be Pres.

To: American Spirit who wrote (12269)	7/29/2007 10:03:59 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224744

Polls show many voters support the party, but individual Democrat candidates are another story: By Michael Finnegan, Times Staff Writer WASHINGTON — Frederick Cole wants the Democrat Party to take back the White House in 2008. "Look what a mess we're in," said Cole, a nurse in Louisville, Ky. "It's time for some fresh, new-thinker ideas." Yet if his party nominates Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York for president, the 52-year-old Democrat plans to vote for her Republican opponent. "It's a personal thing," Cole said. "I don't like her. I think she's condescending and arrogant, even worse than Al Gore, who has no personality." It is a paradox of the 2008 presidential race. By a wide margin several polls show, when voters are offered head-to-head contests of leading announced candidates, many switch allegiance to the Republican. In a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll conducted this month, this dynamic was most clearly evident with Clinton. When registered voters were asked which party they would like to win the White House, they preferred a Democrat over a Republican by 8 percentage points. But in a race pitting Clinton against former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, the Republican was favored by 10 percentage points. Clinton's showing against Giuliani was the starkest example of how the general Democrat edge sometimes narrows or vanishes when voters are given specific candidates to choose between. The poll also showed Clinton trailing when matched against two other Republicans, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. The deficits, however, were within the survey's margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. These results, as well as follow-up interviews of poll respondents, reflect the array of difficulties that Clinton could face as the Democratic nominee. "You give someone a name, and they automatically associate it with a specific set of pros and cons," said Dean Spiliotes, a political science professor at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire. "With a candidate as well-known as Hillary Clinton, that's going to cause some problems." Conversations with a dozen Times/Bloomberg poll respondents, including Cole, exposed a number of those problems, above all a sour aftertaste from controversies of her White House years with President Clinton. "I just don't feel like she has the integrity to do the right thing," said retired service-station owner Richard James, 62, a Democrat who lives in Herriman, Utah. James wants a Democrat to win in 2008 yet he would vote for Giuliani over Clinton. "He's got some honesty to him," James said. To Carol Bendick, 63, a Democrat who lives in Danville, Ill., Bush is too cozy with the oil industry, and she, too, wants a Democrat to succeed him. But she would support Giuliani over Clinton. "Who wants four or eight more years of the Clintons' marital disputes, paid for by the United States, we the people? I certainly don't," said Bendick, a teacher on disability.<