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To: Elroy who wrote (238363)	7/31/2007 4:25:31 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Well, that's not good for the long term survival of Israel. What do you think the country should do to reverse this "Jew hatred" and turn it into "Jew love"? :-) In other words, when you aren't busy blaming the Arabs and Palestinians for all the problems brought on by the creation of a Jewish nation in a diverse land occuppied by many non-Jews, I've had it with this crap, Elroy. You want to see a land where one nation REALLY declared a formerly multiethnic country it the property of just one of the people there and REALLY enforced its decrees with ethnic cleansings and massacres, unlike the Israelis? Look at Turkey! Go ask any Armenian, Greek or Kurd about the problems "brought on" by Attaturk's creation of modern Turkey. They'll give you an earful. Millions dead, and millions more dispossessed from lands they had lived in for thousands of years before the Turks ever showed up. But have the Armenians, Greeks and Kurds devoted their existence to wiping Turkey of the map, to declaring that Turks everywhere must be killed? Do THEY fill THEIR schools with "martyr's galleries" of people who have died killing Turks? No! They remember, but they got on with their lives as best they could. The people responsible for paranoid hatred are the people who ARE DOING THE PARANOID HATING. Not whoever did whatever action 50 or 100 years ago that the paranoids have decided to blame. So go ask the haters what they intend to do. Asking the Israelis is like asking the person who is the object of a paranoid's fantasy to stop the paranoia. He isn't crazy himself, and he's not engaging in a conspiracy to kill the paranoid as the lunatic believes, so he can't stop it. It's not HIS paranoia. You might as well ask what the Israelis should do to stop the Sudanese Defense Minister from accusing them of causing the genocide in Darfur.

To: Elroy who wrote (238363)	7/31/2007 4:34:28 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Dr. Sanity blogger explains the uses of paranoia: The insane asylum we call the Middle East and all its affiliates in Africa and Indonesia where Islamic delusion runs rampant have a fully formed paranod fantasy that explains their lack of progress and their dysfunction in the real world. Likewise, the lunatic left also subscribes to their own special convoluted explantions of dysfunction and lack of power. In both cases, if the object of their projections did not exist, they would have to invent them because their world view cannot be held together without the gummy glue of the paranoid fantasies that connect all their dots. Everything can be explained by paranoid logic. In fact, paranoia is really nothing more than the use of reason and logic in the service of the irrational and bizarre. Are you poor? Someone must have robbed you of what you are entitled to! Are you angry and experiencing hatred, but like to think of yourself as a loving, compassionate sort of person? Then the object of your hatred magically becomes the one who hates...you! Is your genius not universally recognized? You must have powerful enemies that prevent you from achieving the success you know should be yours. Have you made mistakes in your life? Someone has clearly tricked you into acting a certain way otherwise you wouldn't have. Has your ideology continually and repeatedly failed in the real world and resulted in death and misery for all who implement it? Take heart! It is not your fault or your ideology's! Either it wasn't implemented virutously enough; or there were evil [Republican, Neocon, Male, White, Christian, Jewish] forces (choose one or more) that have been plotting against it! The above mental gymnastics allow the paranoid person to externalize blame and avoid responsibility for his situation in life, as well as his own feelings. It is always someone else's fault and not his. It is always someone else who is experiencing the objectionable feelings, and he is always the victim of it. In addition to externalizing blame for one's own pitiful situation in life, there is yet another advantage to paranoia and projection: often, a creative distortion of reality can reliably pump up one's own self-esteem. You are righteous, persecuting the true racists thus proving you, yourself, are incapable of any racist thoughts or emotions. Sometimes, it pumps it that self-esteem up at the expense of a great deal of fear; but nevertheless, it is comforting to know that someone appreciates your genius or the threat you represent. Clearly if the CIA, FBI, aliens, Jews , POTUS, Republicans [fill in your favorite bogeyman here] are out to get you, you must be very special and unique. In short, paranoia and its baby brother projection organize and distort reality in a way that makes it palatable; and, at the same time help the user to avoid recognizing some unpleasant truths about himself. When practiced on a societal or cultural level, it accomplishes the same thing. All you have to do is eliminate the external problem and everything will be all right with you and you'll never have to question your beliefs again. drsanity.blogspot.com