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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (238474)	8/1/2007 9:30:32 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine Had a call from my student who lives in Israel ... She is in the States right now taking care of business. I asked her how things were in Israel and she raved on about the picnic they all had on the Dead Sea and climbing the mountain with wonderful falls.. Invited me to come over again... She is 52 now so you know how long ago she was my student. If I can manage to take her up on the offer I am considering it. Nothing like viewing everything first hand.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (238474)	8/1/2007 10:23:19 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

What does this have to with the question, anyway Do you see any sign that the Pals want peace? Does Fatah? Does Hamas? Does Hezbullah? Where is their peace party? What do they really want? The question is where are the Pals that want peace, right? If 150k of them received Israeli nationality, and most of that group of Pals magically changed from your image of the raving bloodthirsty Palestinian into a peaceful Arab neighbor, my hunch is that most Pals want peace. These 150k are a reasonable representative sample of what happens when a Palestinian achieves his right of return and live in equality with his neighbor. The success of that group of 150k is essentially the beginning of my Pasrael peace plan. Integrating the Pals into Israeli-Pasraeli society accomplishes three things - 1. the integrated Pals become peaceful neighbors, 2- the number of Pal refugees decline, and 3- Pasrael increasingly looks more like a combination of US AND THEM instead of its current MOSTLY THEM AND JUST A FEW OF US. It's a lot harder to hate US AND THEM than it is to hate MOSTLY THEM AND JUST A FEW OF US. Some of the lunkheads on this board seem to be of the opinion that "peace" is something Israel can seek by itself, with no cooperation required from the other side. That's true only to the extent that Israel can surrender anytime it likes. If it wants a peace that leaves Israel standing, it needs cooperation. Well ignore those lunkheads, and listen to me! What's wrong with replicating the success of the 150k nationalized Pals over and over and over? Message 23214027