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To: Thomas M. who wrote (345646)	8/3/2007 6:15:00 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574683

must be why Bush's approval rating is 8x better than the democrats...

To: Thomas M. who wrote (345646)	8/3/2007 6:20:06 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1574683

High drama on the house floor tonight. Dems brought an Agriculture appropriations bill to the floor greatly expanding government programs, yet again. Republicans moved to recommit the bill to committee, in order to add language prohibiting any taxpayer funds under the agriculture programs from going to illegal immigrants. The Democrat chair closed the roll call when Republicans had won – as the electronic voting tally indicated enough votes to return the bill to committee. Shouting erupted on the floor, as the Democrats attempted to change the outcome of the vote after the gavel had come down – the vote was closed. Republicans attempted to adjourn, but we were ruled out of order. Confusion set in as members waited at least five minutes for the chair’s decision. Republicans members then began to leave the floor in protest, after Democrats proved they would go to whatever lengths necessary to further their agenda. A bad call by the chair, the vote was closed. Then the Democrats allowed their members to continue voting to change the outcome. An outrage. Is this a democracy or a dictatorship? All but a few Republicans refused to vote on final passage since it became obvious that a fair vote would not happen. UPDATE:Republicans are conferencing this morning after the travesty that occurred last night on the floor of the house. The overwhelming sense of the members is, we have to stand up and reject the democrats manipulation of the rules of the house to further their attempts to thwart Republican efforts to stop government benefits from flowing to illegal immigrants. Republican house members are demanding that democrats right their wrongs.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (345646)	8/3/2007 7:14:32 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1574683

WASHINGTON — The House nearly grinded to a halt Friday as Republicans and Democrats continued to feud over a screwball vote from Thursday and the electronic voting system went down later in the day. Lawmakers had planned on cramming several votes into the day as they neared their month-long summer recess, scheduled to start at close of business Friday. But Thursday night's disputed vote rubbed nerves raw and pushed negotiations over how to proceed into the afternoon. Thursday night, House Republicans had offered a so-called motion to recommit on the agriculture appropriations bill, which would have stalled the bill on the House floor and sent it back to committee. Republicans said the changes to the bill under their motion, if approved, would have prevented illegal immigrants from benefiting from new provisions in the agriculture bill. As that vote was coming to a close, Rep. Michael McNulty, D-N.Y. — who at the time was in charge of the floor — gaveled the vote closed at a dead heat, 214-214, a vote that would signify that the effort to stall the bill failed. But the electronic board in the House at that moment showed Republicans with the higher ground at 215-213. This prompted the shouting and boos. Republicans, already rankled by longer-than-expected preliminary votes leading up to a final vote on the agriculture bill, started shouting "Nay! Nay! Nay!" (Story continues below) Advertise Here Advertisements Related * Stories o House OKs Plan to Allow Prescription Drug Imports o House Approves Mandatory Time at Home Between Troop Deployments to Iraq o House Votes to Reverse Supreme Court Pay Discrimination Case o House to Vote on Lobbying Reform Bill Moments later, the board showed that Democrats had the upper hand, with 216 votes to the Republicans' 212. In protest of the last-minute shifts, Republicans marched off the House floor. In an attempt to appease Republicans, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland quickly offered a motion that would allow a revote on the matter, but the attendance for that motion was decidedly fewer: 216 yeas, 12 nays and 55 voting only "present." On the final vote, the agriculture bill passed on a 237-18 vote, with 13 voting "present." Nerves were still raw Friday morning, but in mano-a-mano deal-making between two top House lawmakers, the two sides of the aisle appeared to reach a truce. On the House floor, members gathered to try to sort out what happened and to mend fences. Hoyer offered a resolution to hand the matter over to the House ethics panel and offered a personal apology to his Republican counterparts over the blow-up. "The minority was understandably angry," he said. House Minority Leader John Boehner avoided harsh criticism but said the ethics panel resolution would be unfair because of the majority control by Democrats — adding that it would be like putting the matter "in a black hole." McNulty apologized for calling the vote prematurely. "I just want to express regret to all the members in the House, and especially the minority, of any role that I may have had in that confusion," McNulty said. After talking it over, Hoyer and Boehner agreed to not press any further with either of their resolutions and move on. Boehner urged his colleagues to take the approach that, "What happened last night, happened last night." Later in the day, Boehner was less willing to give. In a statement he issue with Minority Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri, they said a meeting they had Friday with Hoyer didn't fix the problem: Democrats still refused to reverse the vote. 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To: Thomas M. who wrote (345646)	8/3/2007 7:28:45 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1574683

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (345646)	8/6/2007 7:56:54 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1574683

Oops, Bush lied again: tpmmuckraker.com; I don't understand what the Democrats are doing. Tapping phones without a warrant was a big brouhaha last year. Now the Dems are giving him what he wants. I don't get it. I know they are worried he will accuse them of being soft on terrorism but really get over it. They are letting the big white wonder back into the driver's seat.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (345646)	8/6/2007 8:07:45 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1574683

Please note that its the Telegraph in the UK breaking this story. Rudolph Giuliani would be 'terrible' president By Philip Sherwell in New York, Sunday Telegraph Last Updated: 2:13am BST 06/08/2007 The former top antiterrorism aide to Rudolph Giuliani has launched a stinging critique of the former New York mayor over the September 11 atrocity, attacking a key pillar of his challenge for the White House. Rudolph Giuliani's nomination campaign owes much to his role on September 11. Jerome Hauer, New York's emergency management director from 1996 to 2000, said Mr Giuliani was closely involved in locating the city's crisis control room in the World Trade Centre complex, even though it was a known terrorist target after the 1993 truck bomb attack which killed six people at the site. The location proved disastrous in 2001 as the building was set ablaze in the collapse of the adjoining twin towers. The condemnation by Mr Hauer, a leading US expert on biological and chemical terrorism, provides fresh ammunition to Mr Giuliani's foes, who want to undermine the widespread acclaim for his actions in the aftermath of al-Qaeda's attack on the towers. It follows similar criticism from the main firemen's union. Mr Hauer's comments signal the sort of scrutiny that Mr Giuliani will face from his political rivals' research teams if he remains the Republican frontrunner for next year's election. Mr Giuliani's advisers reject the criticisms as the inaccurate recollections of a bitter man who puts politics over principle, and maintain the command centre was sited at the World Trade Centre on Mr Hauer's recommendation. Mr Hauer, who now runs a consultancy firm, said that the former mayor vetoed his proposal to site the emergency command centre in Brooklyn as he wanted it to be within walking distance of his City Hall offices in Manhattan. "Rudy would make a terrible president and that is why I am speaking now," Mr Hauer told The Sunday Telegraph. "He's a control freak who micro-manages decision, he has a confrontational character trait and picks fights just to score points. He is the last thing this country needs as president right now." Mr Hauer is a registered Democrat voter but his expertise was so highly rated by the Republican Bush administration that he was chosen in 2002 to co-ordinate America's public health preparation for future emergencies, including attacks with weapons of mass destruction. He has gone public with his criticisms after Mr Giuliani blamed him for the location of the New York command centre during a television interview. "That is Rudy re-inventing history," he said. "We had found a good facility in Brooklyn but Rudy's people and then the mayor himself made clear that the site had to be walking distance from City Hall." Mr Hauer also accused Mr Giuliani of failing to sort out turf battles between the city's police and fire departments, and of appointing inexperienced cronies to key positions. And he was dismissive of Mr Giuliani's assertion that Judith Nathan - a former nurse who was then Mr Giuliani's girlfriend and is now his third wife - had co-ordinated the Family Assistance Centre relief operation after September 11. "Rudy told me to find a role for Judy. She came along to some meetings and her heart was in the right place, but it's baloney to suggest she ran the centre. And now he says he would take her advice on chemical and biological terrorism? Give me a break." Mr Hauer's assessment has put the focus back on the former mayor's handling of the aftermath of the outrage. Pro-Democrat firemen's unions and the relatives of some victims of the atrocity blame Mr Giuliani for failing to introduce an integrated emergency control system. They also say he failed to ensure co-ordination between the police and fire brigade, despite the 1993 truck bombing. In addition, they claim city authorities knew that firemen's radios did not function properly - seen as a key reason why 343 of them died when the towers collapsed, since many would not have heard the order to evacuate. Mr Giuliani's White House campaign owes much to the reputation he gained as "America's mayor" for his role in the 2001 events and his hawkish national security credentials. He holds a comfortable lead in polls of prospective Republican nominees, followed by former Tennessee senator and actor Fred Thompson, who has yet officially to declare his candidacy. telegraph.co.uk