To: Tommaso who wrote (84045 ) 8/9/2007 8:30:41 AM From: GraceZ Respond to of 306849 ****OT***I am sure you looked at these subcompact shower stalls you can get now--very attractive. And a frail or disabled person can sit on a shower stool and use a hand-held shower and bathe quite completely and safely. That's next on the list. We had to do the downstairs bathroom so we could do something about her main bathroom. She absolutely refuses to move into one of our houses while we redo the bathroom because she thinks we won't let her go back home. It's crazy to have her showering in a tub shower. We put in hand rails and what not but she won't use the chair. I admire her determination to be self sufficient and I imagine I'll be just as stubborn holding onto my independence as well if I live that long. If we put in a stand alone shower with a place to sit she will use it especially if it doesn't look like something out of a nursing home. Kitchens have gotten a lot more expensive to renovate since you did yours. If you are determined to do a reno on the cheap I know I could have cut my cost in half (refinish cabinets instead of new, laminate instead of stone, etc.) but I wanted, we both wanted, a really nice kitchen since we spend a lot of time in there and the existing had some layout issues that needed to be addressed. We have a very modest home by today's standards and we don't spend much keeping it up so we could afford good quality materials. The 12k covers the kitchen cabinets, barely. Then there is floor tile, back splash tile, stone counter tops, sinks, faucet fixtures, appliances and of course the complicated lighting plan I drew up. I planned for recessed, halogen task lighting, low voltage argon under counter lighting and beautiful Italian mini pendants over the peninsula as well as a nice fixture over the eating area. At one point when he was trying to work out the wiring for all that lighting, John says to me in all seriousness, "Why don't we simplify this plan and just put a nice fixture in the middle of the ceiling?" He's such a guy. He works on 4 million dollar commercial renovations which have twelve layers of blueprints for the ceiling systems alone. I figured he could handle a three layer lighting plan. When it comes to design I'm sure I'm not the first woman to secretly wish she married a gay guy instead of a straight one.