To: Lane3 who wrote (1822 ) 8/8/2007 7:16:59 PM From: TimF Respond to of 42652 Not all the overhead expense is useless waste. Its the cost of allowing more choice and different levels of service, and it allows for competition which can provide some downward pressure on costs to counter the additional overhead. I agree with you about it not being worth the price, and I think I still would even if I did think single payer would decrease costs without increasing non price related rationing. Coyote Blog expressed it well. "Universal health care is NOT a system in which the majority of us who are satisfied with our care can keep our current system, while the poor get a better one. It is a system where all of us are thrown out of our current system and given the same care the poor get. It is roughly equivalent to a Great Society housing program in which not just the homeless get housing, but everyone in the country are forced to give up their current house and live in public housing."coyoteblog.com Now it doesn't have to be that, you can provide a low to moderate level of insurance for everyone and allow higher levels of supplemental insurance, but then you don't have "equality", or "decent health care for everyone" (because decent is defined at an ever increasing level), or any particular reason to think you will get significant savings in terms of total dollars, or percent of GDP, spent on health care. Its not just the "gold plated" (or "silver plated" or whatever level it takes to exceed the government provided level of health care), that can get outlawed. Cheaper forms of insurance choices get thrown out as well. See - My Health Plan Is Now Illegal In Massachussetts - coyoteblog.com