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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (238441)8/9/2007 4:05:34 AM
From: pirasa2Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
I did not predict 24 million K8s PLUS 1 million Barcs. I presented alternative scenarios both of which would lead to at least cash flow neutrality for AMD in Q4 07.

My initial post = 20 milion k8 * 60 ASP + 300 * 1 million from Barc + not a disastrous ATI side = cash flow neutrality for AMD in Q4 07.

You and a few others = 1 million server CPUs in a quarter is nuts.

Me = Barc core means server plus Phenom. One full Q4, overall market expected to be very good, pent-up demand for brand new architecture, lots of hungry, compatible existing motherboards. It is not as implausible as you suggest.

Me = but if you insist on a number less than $300 million for Barc, the deficiency could also be made up by selling more K8s. How about 23-24 million K8s and just $100 million in Barc revenue? That also lets AMD breakeven, forgetting any upside potential from ATI for the moment.

The objectors = 23 million in a quarter is impossible. The market is smaller than you think (70 - 80 million in Q4 07) in Q4.

Me= The market was around 70 million in Q4 06. Production and inventory wise, AMD will have no problem supplying 23-24 million CPUs in a quarter. As long as they don't fuck up pricing, they can sell them, the production capacity is in place.

<<<<<<<<<<Pirasa, let's try a different perspective, shall we?

23-24M units in Q4 2007 from AMD. Let's say the overall market grows by 10% from 70M to 77M. That means AMD will achieve their long-time goal of 30%, which will be huge news indeed.

In any case, you're on the record predicting 24M units for Q4 and one million quad cores shipped in Q4 alone. I think your prediction is totally far-fetched, but then again, it's your money.

Tenchusatsu



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (238441)8/9/2007 7:32:40 AM
From: pirasa2Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
<<<<<And AMD is not making noises about building inventory in H1 for H2. Why not? Because inventory of AMD's current parts is losing value at an astonishing rate, and the company is strapped for cash. Life is very different for AMD than a year ago.

You do know that inventory is kept at cost, don't you? In terms of market prices, things are relatively stable for quite some time, the price cuts have mellowed out.