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To: steve harris who wrote (239281)	8/12/2007 9:05:35 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 281500

Yep.

To: steve harris who wrote (239281)	8/13/2007 2:03:25 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Machiavelli: The end justifies the means publicbookshelf.com who may have been paraphasing END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS -- "The Greek playwright Sophocles wrote in Electra (c 409 B.C.), 'The end excuses any evil,' a thought later rendered by the Roman poet Ovid as 'The result justifies the deed' in 'Heroides' (c. 10 B.C.)." From "Wise Words and Wives' Tales: The Origins, Meanings and Time-Honored Wisdom of Proverbs and Folk Sayings Olde and New" by Stuart Flexner and Doris Flexner (Avon Books, New York, 1993). phrases.org.uk who stole it from an American Another source explains the phrase as meaning: "Anything is acceptable if it leads to a successful result." First use in the United States: "Diary" (1657) by Michael Wigglesworth (1631-1705), American clergyman and poet. "The means justify the end" is a variation. From "Random House Dictionary of Popular Proverbs and Sayings" by Gregory Y. Titelman (Random House, New York, 1996 ibid who was, no doubt, a follower of Karl Marx, who had the same first name as Karl Rove, who is as unAmerican as they come. Go figure.