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To: haqihana who wrote (21772)	8/14/2007 12:16:04 PM
From: Mr. Palau	Respond to of 71588

the mormon teachings continue to evolve; they remain fascinating "under the banner of heaven," by the guy who wrote "into thin air," is a good read about this

To: haqihana who wrote (21772)	8/14/2007 12:19:55 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

William Miller was not into it for financial gain. People sold everything and they stood together in a field waiting for the second coming of Christ. When his first prediction was not fulfilled, he told them it would be the next year (or something like that) and a smaller number gathered their then. After his third prediction failed to materialize the movement splintered.

To: haqihana who wrote (21772)	8/14/2007 12:48:30 PM
From: ILCUL8R	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71588

The thing that got me with Mormons was when I read that the Indians came across the Atlantic Ocean in boats that could not make the journey, and that they came for somewhere in the Middle East, and became Mormons. It is known that American Indians were Mongols and there is proof that they walked across the Bering land bridge during several times form 20,000 years ago to 10,000. You are correct about the origin of the American Indians. Actually, Mormons don't believe that all Indians came in boats from the middle east. In the 1830s there were many, many reputable thinkers and writers who believed the Indians were some of the lost tribes of Israel. Their erroneous beliefs may have contaminated beliefs of early Mormons over zealous to claim all Indians as remnants of lost tribes. Members of 2 families plus a servant or two came in boats from the middle east, from Jerusalem, ca. 600 BC -- according to the Mormons. Their history as chronicled in the "Book of Mormon" was all about them and their offspring. Mormons and Mormon scholars have no trouble understanding that this group of Jews were but a few hundred or thousand people in a sea of millions of original Indian inhabitants. These few people were ultimately wiped out as a people and race around 400 AD in wars with the surrounding natives. All of this supposedly happened in Meso-America (southern Mexico down to parts of Guatemala -- central America). Inevitable mixing of the races through intermarriage may very well have left millions down there with traces of Jewish blood in their veins. The Mormon Church's most fertile missionary fields are in Mexico, central and south America, so many down there have no trouble believing that Mormon teachings do speak to them in these latter days. I'm not trying to be preachy but with Romney's candidacy and the subsequent increased attention paid to the Mormon church and its beliefs I think it important that people make decisions from established belief statements, not hearsay. Cheers . . .