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To: bentway who wrote (346806)8/15/2007 10:37:27 AM
From: combjelly  Respond to of 1576805
 
"Although there are a FEW reports of spitting, there is no visual record of it ever having happened."

Although there seems to be good records of pro-war demonstrators spitting on anti-war demonstrators...

I used to know several Vietnam vets. None mentioned being spit upon. Several did mention being chastised because they "lost" the war. And they were pretty defensive about it, that charge cut pretty deep. So the war supporters probably abused more returning vets than anyone else.

But, the hawks have spent the past few decades trying to whitewash what they did to the returning vets.



To: bentway who wrote (346806)8/15/2007 10:48:16 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576805
 
The consequence of Bernanke's hard line is we are starting to see the good lenders capitulate and potentially file Chapter 11. TMA doesn't do subprime......has all jumbo A+ loans.......but it can't get money either. Same with Country and now there's talk that WA Mutual might get into trouble. We're in danger of throwing the baby out with the wash.

Thornburg's Fate Will Tell Us a Lot

By Jim Cramer
RealMoney.com Columnist
8/15/2007 8:00 AM EDT


Thornburg Mortgage (TMA - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating) will define this period. Or at least the next 30 days of Thornburg. Because that is, I believe, about how much time it has before it's in real trouble with funding. At least that's what I have to believe, given that the company thinks holding the dividend over a month will be the source of its survival.
The dividend isn't the issue, though. It's the franchise.

Think of it: If the book value of the company is $14.28, if the default rate is extremely low, why doesn't someone buy them? Why doesn't someone step up? Bank of America (BAC - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating)? Wachovia (WB - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating)? SunTrust (STI - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating)? Merrill Lynch (MER - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating)? The ever-quiet Lehman Brothers (LEH - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating)?

Why isn't this property worth something to someone, if only just to be able to inject the money and then get the book value out of it -- forget the origination business?

Or is it that no one has any money? Or no one believes the book value? Or that the whole thing can be bought 30 days from now at a much lower price or in receivership?

Tough questions. But they are the ones you should be asking.

At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in stocks mentioned.

thestreet.com



To: bentway who wrote (346806)8/15/2007 10:49:49 AM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576805
 
I saw people spit on returning nam soldiers. That guy and wiki are just pushing a lie, so it can be repeated enough. That's why wikipedia is a JOKE

"Although there are a FEW reports of spitting, there is no visual record of it ever having happened"

LOLOL what a stupid statement, how many video cameras were there back then?? Ted might fall for that BS. but no one with a brain would. Remember back then they said why hasn't anyone filmed a plane crashing.