To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (346888 ) 8/15/2007 6:14:53 PM From: combjelly Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1575177 "To directly counteract all of the above factors which "increase the rate of increase," we have to: - Tell people not to immigrate here (e.g. control the borders). - Force people to walk, take mass transit, or live closer to work. - Tell soccer moms to take their kids to school in Toyota Priuses. You don't think many Americans would consider those "significant sacrifices"?" Well, this is known as the fallacy of false choices. Those aren't the only choices, you know. Some, like better control of the borders is something that is a good idea without worrying about the carbon footprint. Others, like encouraging the use of smaller vehicles is also a good idea. But not one that is necessary. Other things can be done. One, encourage reforestation in areas that were clear cut in the past and have changed to grasslands. The grasslands in the center part of the country are believed to have been created when Indians used fire for hunting and warfare. More trees means more carbon sequestered. Another is to use more carbon neutral fuels. I am not talking about ethanol from corn, that is at best energy neutral. Sugar cane is a better bet, and oils from things like hazelnuts look to be even better. Burning biomass instead of fossil fuel whenever possible is another step. Doing more integration like some European countries do where the waste heat from power generation is used to heat homes is yet something else that can help. And, finally, there is the greater use of nuclear power. Especially the more modern variants that burn to completion. They generate very little waste and need very little fuel and are very, very efficient. There are lots of things that can be done with very little or no short term pain. All yield at least some long term benefit. What doesn't help is to sit on our asses and whine about how hard it will be to do anything so why do anything at all? That is the only way to lose. And that is exactly what we are doing.