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To: Joe NYC who wrote (347174)	8/16/2007 9:27:05 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575625

re: Even after the Bush administration made building nuclear plants easier, there is no consensus. In fact, the alarmists are winning. Do you guys have any idea how many nuke power plants are on the drawing board? It isn't an easy projuct, and it costs A TON of up front money. And most of that money comes from the utility users, not "investors". You talk like it's building a grocery store. re: There used to be time when people used to look forward to the future, what future would bring, what science would bring, how lives of people would improve because of, among other things what science, technology would bring, how industry would make things better, less expensive. No problem would go unsolved. That was before the doom and gloom group of Algores came on the stage. Bull. That was alive and well in the Clinton years. It died with the born again anti-science Bush admin.

To: Joe NYC who wrote (347174)	8/20/2007 5:43:14 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575625

There used to be time when people used to look forward to the future, what future would bring, what science would bring, how lives of people would improve because of, among other things what science, technology would bring, how industry would make things better, less expensive. No problem would go unsolved. That was before the doom and gloom group of Algores came on the stage. Incidentally, EU made Slovakia decommission parts of that nuclear plant I lived near to as a condition for entry into EU, only to turn around a couple of years later and cut the cap on the greenhouse gas emissions for the country. Now, how is the country to make up the lost output, catch up with the standard of living in Western Europe or the US? Most of the fast growing countries ignore (China, India ignore or are not part of the Kyoto BS). The newly admitted EU countries are. So the question is to blow through the targets or cripple their economies, preventing their citizens from achieving higher standards of living... There are 6 nuclear reactors in Slovakia....four at Bohunice and two at Mochovce. The EU required that 2 of the 4 at Bohunice be closed down because they are not upgradeable and apparently, the IAEA concurred. Since Chernobyl, its common knowledge that some Russian nuclear reactors were poorly designed and I suspect that's the reason behind the requirement to close. Meanwhile, the rest of Slovakia's reactors can be upgraded and allowed to continue to run. As I understand it, the US is helping Slovakia do some of the upgrading. So then, how much energy is Slovakia losing by the closing of the two reactors? Why do you disagree with the closures? It seems to me the EU IS looking to the future and doesn't want another Chernobyl disaster on its hands. Understandably. Every summer the offspring born to the people who lived during the Chernobyl disaster spend their summers in Seattle. Some of them are badly disfigured. Do you think that can not happen to the Bohunice units that are to be closed? BTW Slovakia knew about the required closures in 1999, entered the EU in 2004 and must do the closings by 2008. That's seems like adequate time to find replacements for the energy that will be lost with the closures......but then what do I know.....I am only a liberal. "In the field of nuclear energy, Slovakia operates two nuclear power plants located at Bohunice and Mochovce. Two of the four units at Bohunice have been classified as non-upgradable, and must be shut down. The Government has drawn up a decommissioning plan. In the case of Mochovce, the two reactors should be upgraded and nuclear safety measures should be taken. Slovakia has made progress in this area. In November 2000 it adopted the framework procedure and timetable for the decommissioning of the two Bohunice units which cannot be upgraded. The Slovak authorities have taken additional measures as regards nuclear safety in the other two units. The programme to improve safety compared with the Mochovce nuclear power station has been completed for half the power station, with the exception of post-accident monitoring. The EU Council adopted a report in June 2001 on nuclear safety in the context of enlargement. This report advocates seven specific measures for Slovakia which has accepted the report's recommendations. The two V1 reactors of Bohunice Nuclear Power Plant are subject to early closure commitments. In 2003, Slovakia confirmed its commitment to closing Unit 1 of the Bohunice V1 nuclear power plant by 2006, and Unit 2 by 2008. Slovakia should continue to pay particular attention to further strengthening the capacity of its radioactive waste management agency currently being established." europa.eu