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To: TopCat who wrote (347483)8/18/2007 7:24:33 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1573092
 
Try to think of another industrialized nation where their cities verge on being war zones. I bet you can't."

There is a way that you could stop looking so ignorant on nearly everything....

You could spend just a few minutes using Google before shooting your mouth off.


Look...let's get real clear about some facts right off the top. Clearly, you thought you come onto this thread and set us all straight on a whole bunch of topics. Well, dude, the first strike against you is that you vote Republican. The second strike is this thread is not a rightie one. The third strike is that there is not a rightie moderator to save your butt and put your protagonist on thread ignore. The fourth strike is that most righties are intellectually inferior and not nearly as well informed as liberals and independents.

Having said all that, if you wish to tell me of an industrialized nation with cities that are as violent as American ones I will be glad to listen. Otherwise, I would like you to make a backflip into your own butthole and disappear. TIA.



To: TopCat who wrote (347483)8/18/2007 7:32:51 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1573092
 
What Bush said today on his radio address:

'Unfortunately, political progress at the national level has not matched the pace of progress at the local level. The Iraqi government in Baghdad has many important measures left to address, such as reforming the de-Baathification laws, organizing provincial elections, and passing a law to formalize the sharing of oil revenues.

America will continue to urge Iraq's leaders to meet the benchmarks they have set. Yet Americans can be encouraged by the progress and reconciliation that are taking place at the local level. An American politician once observed that "all politics is local." In a democracy, over time national politics reflects local realities. And as reconciliation occurs in local communities across Iraq, it will help create the conditions for reconciliation in Baghdad as well."


And this is what he said 8 months ago:

The most urgent priority for success in Iraq is security, especially in Baghdad...So I've committed more than 20,000 additional American troops to Iraq. The vast majority of them -- five brigades -- will be deployed to Baghdad.

I've made it clear to the Prime Minister and Iraq's other leaders that America's commitment is not open-ended...Now is the time to act...To establish its authority, the Iraqi government plans to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November. To give every Iraqi citizen a stake in the country's economy, Iraq will pass legislation to share oil revenues among all Iraqis...To empower local leaders, Iraqis plan to hold provincial elections later this year. And to allow more Iraqis to re-enter their nation's political life, the government will reform de-Baathification laws, and establish a fair process for considering amendments to Iraq's constitution.


and this:

Their solution [the Dems] is to scale back America's efforts in Baghdad --or announce the phased withdrawal of our combat forces. We carefully considered these proposals. And we concluded that to step back now would force a collapse of the Iraqi government, tear the country apart, and result in mass killings on an unimaginable scale.

In other words, we are turning the other cheek so Iraqis can sh!t on that side as well. Thanks Mr. Bush!



To: TopCat who wrote (347483)8/18/2007 7:41:15 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1573092
 
The nation's reaction to Karl Rove's departure:

The Vallejo (CA) Times-Herald:

"In the end, Rove's strategy didn't help his boss govern. The legacy of the Bush presidency will undoubtedly center on the administration's inability to convert that election savvy into effective leadership.

With a Republican congressional majority for his first six years, Bush steamrollered Democrats and often failed to listen to GOP leaders. He did it his way, which was Rove's way, putting the "bully" back in "bully pulpit." The vote in the mid-term elections in 2006 was payback.

While others in the White House, notably Vice President Dick Cheney, were more involved in war strategy, Rove politicized the debate at home, including accusing Democrats of "cutting and running" if they expressed any measure of opposition to the war."


--snip--

"Whether he's leaving in an effort to escape a congressional subpoena, shape another Republican presidential campaign, cash in via book and speeches, or spend time with his family, the resignation of one of the president's most trusted advisers 17 months before the end of Bush's term is emblematic of just how weak this White House has become."

Philadelphia Inquirer:

"Rove, 56, had the undeniable political genius to guide a winning presidential candidate in 2000. But then he squandered his creation by advocating divisive politics over broad-based policy at nearly every turn. He charted a course in which partisan politics became administration policy."

--snip--

"Consequently, the war is all Bush has left for a legacy. For too much of Bush's presidency, Rove failed him as an adviser of what works here at home. And the Republican Party that Rove sought to strengthen is weaker for it."

Louisville (Kentucky) Courier-Journal:

"But none of that is what is most important about Mr. Rove. It is acceptable and honorable to try to win political campaigns. And it is reasonable to concede that many policy decisions will be influenced by purely political calculations.

However, the country expects limits. That's the point Mr. Rove seemed to miss.

In particular, he bears responsibility for his advice in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. National unity was possible and desirable, but he famously concluded that the fight against terror was an opportunity ripe for partisan Republican exploitation. Thus was born the reprehensible Republican theme that political opposition was disloyal, unpatriotic and a sign of weakness.

The result has been sour for Mr. Rove and his client. As Iraq went bad, for instance, it became "Bush's war" and a GOP liability.

But it has been a loss for the rest of us, too. That sense of common purpose and resolve we felt after 9/11 is gone. That is primarily Mr. Rove's doing."


Even the Scaife-owned Pittsburgh Tribune-Review got in on it:

"However, Rove, who too much melded policy with politics, is not the president. Bush is. We would be remiss to focus too strongly on Rove as Svengali, political strategist and lightning rod and too weakly on his boss.

It may have been Bush's flaw to entrust too much of his presidency to anyone. By having deferred to Rove, the president reveals of himself a needy emptiness into which content is poured by others.

On the stump one can give the same speeches over and over again. In the presidency, a person should be prepared to grow fully into what he is.

In the seventh year of the presidency of George W. Bush, is this all there is?

And that's key: Rove might have been the engineer, but Bush entered into it gleefully, arrogantly, self-righteously. Rove might have put the words in Bush's mouth at many turns, but Bush spoke them with conviction, put his name and face on them and forced them into law. Rove might be leaving, but there is no reason to believe the spirit he instilled in the Bush administration goes with him.

He is a poison and his departure from the White House is reason for celebration, but we can't rest until his approach to campaigns and governance have been expunged from our country's political life."