To: Brumar89 who wrote (347713 ) 8/22/2007 3:19:02 PM From: tejek Respond to of 1573123 You asked for examples of war zones in industrialized countries and I gave you examples. And you didn't even thank me. Why should I thank you? This is a political forum, not customer service.I wasn't a politican it was A famous Dutch tv/film producer who was a descendent of Van Gogh. I was talking about Fortuyn, not Theo Van Gogh. Thanks for another example. Assassinations of political leaders also happens in the US. Its telling that you were only able to come up with one country and one that doesn't have the kind of street violence we experience on a daily basis in American cities. A Dutch bishop urges Christians to refer to God as Allah. Link please.......from a creditable site. This was just in the news, so you shouldn't need a link This is what has you and the right wing blogs all astir? Ridiculous! All he is suggesting is to use the words Allah and God interchangeably. After all, they mean the same thing. And as the Bishop so astutely points out, God, as a supreme being, certainly is not going to mind. So why should the right? Let's call God Allah by Mohammed Abdelrahman & Nicolien den Boer* 14-08-2007 The Bishop of Breda, Tiny Muskens, wants people to start calling God Allah. He says the Netherlands should look to Indonesia, where the Christian churches already pray to Allah. It is also common in the Arab world: Christian and Muslim Arabs use the words God and Allah interchangeably. Speaking on the Dutch TV programme Network on Monday evening, Bishop Muskens (pictured) says it could take another 100 years but eventually the name Allah will be used by Dutch churches. And that will promote rapprochement between the two religions. Retiring Muskens doesn't expect his idea to be greeted with much enthusiasm. The 71-year-old bishop, who will soon be retiring due to ill health, says God doesn't mind what he is called. God is above such "discussion and bickering". Human beings invented this discussion themselves, he believes, in order to argue about it. More than 30 years ago Bishop Muskens worked in Indonesia and, there, God was called Allah, even in Catholic churches. The Dutch should learn to get on spontaneously with different cultures, religions and behaviour patterns: read more..........radionetherlands.nl