To: Elroy who wrote (239704 ) 8/21/2007 12:51:11 PM From: one_less Respond to of 281500 "Nope, it's not my ego at all. It would be nice if we could test these women. If a prospective bride were offered two options, 1 being marry the guy, 2 being get a low paying entry level job at a shop in Dubai, I think 99% of the prospective brides would choose the job option.",? Wow!!! I couldn't have come up with a better way to explain it myself. The people of this culture are just as curious at how any honorable person could send a daughter to do menial labor for an employer under conditions where their honor is not protected by involved loving friends and relatives. They are horrified by the number of harassment, abuse, assaults, and rapes that occur in American Culture on an annual basis. It's mostly based on misconceptions and improper comparisons of culture just like you do.I think 99% of the prospective brides would choose the job option.",? To bad I don't gamble, I could clean you out. "That they are not given that simple options is indicative of the earlier slavery comments, and lack of respect for women comments that I was making. You can call not bothering a woman in a veil respect. I call it something else." Well, one of us is ignorant and exaggerates the issues they choose not to endorse so that's understandable. "The image of the typical Muslim woman wearing the veil and forced to stay home and forbidden to drive is all too common in most peoples thoughts. Although some Muslim countries may have laws that oppress women, this should not be seen as coming from Islam. Many of these countries do not rule by any kind of Shari'ah (Islamic law) and introduce their own cultural standpoints on the issue of gender equity. Islam on the other hand gives men and women different roles and equity between the two is laid down in the Quran and the example of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Islam sees a woman, whether single or married, as an individual in her own right, with the right to own and dispose of her property and earnings. A marriage gift is given by the groom to the bride for her own personal use, and she keeps her own family name rather than taking her husband's. Both men and women are expected to dress in a way that is modest and dignified. The Messenger of God (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest to his wife." Violence of any kind towards women and forcing them against their will for anything is not allowed. A Muslim marriage is a simple, legal agreement in which either partner is free to include conditions. Marriage customs thus vary widely from country to country. Divorce is not common, although it is acceptable as a last resort. According to Islam, a Muslim girl cannot be forced to marry against her will: her parents simply suggest young men they think may be suitable. jannah.org Best regards, Gem