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To: Petz who wrote (239217)	8/22/2007 2:52:09 AM
From: wbmw	Respond to of 275872

Re: Sorry to burst your bubble, the the Intel website clearly says that only 2.33 GHz and slower Clovertowns can hit the 80w TDP. 2.66 and 3.0 are still 120w. This is a pretty recent update since X5365 was spec-less until very recently. It doesn't burst anything, but thanks for the correction. I was expecting the 2.66GHz part to drop down from 120W to 80W with the G-0 stepping. Perhaps your link does not yet reflect the change, or perhaps, the 2.66GHz part will not end up getting stepped down at all. Either way, it's the difference of one bin, and Harpertown will supposedly support 80W all the way up to 3.0GHz. dailytech.com It may turn out that Intel will get a boost in frequency for their 80W E-series at the same time Barcelona gets a boost in frequency due to better steppings. Re: Maybe someone here has access to the actual datasheets on the AMD Opteron SE parts. It would be helpful to know whether Tcmax is at the bottom or top of the 67-72 range. The AMD spec said that it depended on the sku. Intuitively, one would suspect that the highest bin parts (SE edition at 120W) would also spec for the lowest Tcase max to allow for the higher leakage variation at the higher frequency (or in other words, enforce stricter cooling to account for higher leakage parts). This may not be the case, but so far I have presumed that 67C degrees applies to SE parts, and 72C degrees applies to nominal parts. Re: I apologize for misinterpreting your Tcmax comparison. When I realized it, was too late to edit. No problem. I am finding this discussion useful, and I appreciate your willingness to turn the discussion in a more civil direction.