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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (239930)8/26/2007 3:58:09 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Yes, that is pretty much what happened. Even the phrase, to "go communist" was current back then. It was impossible to even talk to Ho. Or any other "communist." We would just be "rewarding" them. Now where have I heard that before?

It all might have been different. So very different. If I could do so, I would certainly go back into history and change that timeline, get on a different one. But....
so it goes. We're stuck with the idiots we have, not the ones we would choose.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (239930)8/26/2007 4:02:33 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
January 1955 - The first direct shipment of U.S. military aid to Saigon arrives. The U.S. also offers to train the fledgling South Vietnam Army.

July 1955 - Ho Chi Minh visits Moscow and agrees to accept Soviet aid.


Well doesn't that sound damning? If you ignore the fact that Ho Chi Minh was a committed communist since 1921, when he helped to found the French Communist Party. You also have to ignore the fact that Ho met with both Stalin and Mao in 1950, who recognized the Viet Minh government and agreed to give Ho Chinese aid. By 1955 Ho was the head of a one-party Communist government in the North.

It is foolish not to notice that Ho's status as a committed communist of long standing had something to do with the US' attitude towards him.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (239930)8/26/2007 8:02:33 PM
From: neolib  Respond to of 281500
 
Exact same problem played out across Africa as well. Euro owners resisting non-racial democracy sprouted lots of black commies. Didn't need to be that way...