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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (217213)	8/27/2007 10:52:37 AM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

No jihad allowed for Shi'a until Mahdi comes back? I'm no expert, but it doesn't sound right to me, ST. In any case, we should point this out to Hizballah.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (217213)	8/27/2007 12:41:22 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

In the Shia view, the "rightful" Imam is the Mahdi (messiah) who is protected and made invisible by Allah until the end of times. So for practical purposes, the Shia may not wage Jihad of aggression. Period. ST, If you have time, how about making a quick run over to Iraq and let them know about that. The Quran is a complete code of life that also provides a philosophy of war. This philosophy is considered divine and no other military thought I know of possesses this supreme characteristic. The Holy Quran provides comprehensive guidance to the concept of war. It establishes and defines all aspects of the use of force. Muslims who are true believers do not think the Quran's guidance addresses national interests. They do believe it points them towards peace and justice and empowers them to use force to attain these ends. The Quran may be the first document that advocates "killing for peace". The Quran also provides much flexibility to their opponents. If you want to get some real background, go back and read about the interpretation of and application of the Quran by their Holy Prophet during his war against the pagans. Their divine concept of war was not written as a single document. The war revelations began to be revealed 12 years after 2/3 of the Quran had been written. And they include critiques of later battles. Studying the Quran alongside the other and later divine revelations provides deep and complete coverage of their concept of warfare. As you likely know I am a strong fan of the importance of simultaneously studying geography in order to comprehend war. A look at a map of the Roman and Persian Empires in the early 600AD century, along with the Quran and other Muslim warfare reading material, should provide a better understanding of their views and our problems with them. uw