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To: rich evans who wrote (85601)8/28/2007 1:13:49 AM
From: benwood  Respond to of 110194
 
That would be OK if "we" didn't need to pay it back, we being the US Taxpayer. There's no difference (to me) in paying an increase in income tax in order to pay off a foreign debt versus paying an increase in income tax to repay the SS misTRUST fund.

The more likely reality is closer to what you say, that the debt shouldn't count because, in effect, we'll be paying ourselves back. Not ourselves, of course, but retirees.

Since income taxes probably will never be raised to pay off the debt, that does, in effect, make us like New Zealand, perhaps, at least on balance. Underneath it all, of course, we had to screw retirees to get there as we default on that debt.



To: rich evans who wrote (85601)8/28/2007 1:28:48 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 110194
 
Rich.. you win!!! Nice catch..

Yes.. intergovernmental holdings are a significant part of the US national debt (and a damn good reason SS should NEVER be permitted to run a surplus). There's no such thing as a "lock box" so long as surplus FICA taxes are only permitted to be invested in government T-bills.

If anything, it's money that should be returned to the American people so they can place it in their own private retirement savings/investments.

Hawk