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To: Sdgla who wrote (240151)	8/28/2007 3:58:52 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 281500

Did I tell you he was in my class? It was a very big class. Very big. Remarkable bunch of young scholars. None of them got a lot of creativity points, tho. Like "May you always have an orchestra playing in your stomach, and may I be the conductor." But then I was the teacher. They were never as good as me. May you marry the daughter of the Angel of Death.

To: Sdgla who wrote (240151)	8/28/2007 4:56:31 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"Calling someone a liar and a propagandist in place of responding with what was asked for : Nadine has been posting her proofs for weeks that Muslims all believe this crap of hers about terrorism, but some 'apologists' lie because they also want to hide it (taqiyya). No matter how much evidence is provided to show her that this claim is unjustified she NEVER EVER recognizes that evidence as valid and goes on another tac to provide some additional evidence that ALL Muslisms believe this stuff or that the authentic interpretation of the Quran justifies it but we try to hide that or apologize for it. The thing that stands out most to me is even though I provided overwhelming evidence that Nadines claims are false, repeatedly about Quranic interpretation and what Muslims believe ... and according to her lie about regarding terrorism.... YOU return the same level of vitriolic attack attempting to discount it all. Did you read or study those references by Scholars declaring the prohibition of terrorism. I seriously doubt you care to. It isn't any more useful to you to know that than it is to Nadine, who already knows about it by the way. I label lies 'lies' and I substantiate the label with evidence that shows the deliberate nature of the falsehood. That is what a lie is. I qualify the label of propagandist with evidence showing how doctrine was twisted to promote some petty self serving agenda. That is what propaganda is. I don't bother to provide extensive evidence for every post because I may have already done that for the perp previously. If you don't have the inclination to check the train of posts to see yourself that is your problem. I don't figure you really have a sincere concern about the issue anyway. Its all just petty politics for you, right? yep. "Lack of facts in your replies... cant replace what wasnt there to begin with." You expose your own senseless and flawed complaint/bash. I posted fatwas from the Middle East and the West claiming to be representative of the scholars requested. For example here is are some sublinks to one of many links: The Major Scholars speak against killings and bombings - Part 1 The Major Scholars speak against killings and bombings - Part 2 Not in Arabic because the language of this thread is English. But by Arab scholars in the Middle East. You think the lack of Arabic language posts is some sort of major proof of something feel free to dance a jig in the end zone. sheesh Do you understand Arabic? Does anyone on this thread. How do you know I wouldn't be posting a description of a dog fight.