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To: Lou Weed who wrote (240214)8/29/2007 12:27:17 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
In January of 2006, one of Shia Islam's highest ranking marja clerics, Ayatollah al-Udhma Yousof al-Sanei also decreed a fatwa against suicide bombing, declaring it as a "terrorist act"."

I was talking about Salafis, not Shia. Salafis are Sunni and think the Shia are all heretics. That's like finding a Papal Bull as evidence on the opinions of Protestant Ulster.

Rather it will probably just make the enemy more determined, and this action will provoke malice and bitterness in his heart to such an extent that he may seek to wreak havoc upon the Muslims.

This is what is found from the practice of the Jews with the people of Palestine ­ so when one of the Palestinian blows himself up and kills six or seven people, then in retaliation they take sixty or more. So this does not produce any benefit for the Muslims, and does not benefit those amongst whose ranks explosives are detonated."

Not a whiff about it being WRONG to blow up Jews. Right as rain, criticizable only as non-productive, increasing the malice in their already vicious hearts.

This is supposed to be an example of NOT supporting suicide bombing?

This whole ME conflict is about LAND, no matter how much you try and kid yourself. Religion is a convenient subplot just as it was in Northern Ireland.


No it's not. Border conflicts get settled eventually. Nobody mortgages their future for 50 years over a few hectares of borderland.

How many new countries have been formed in last 100 years? How many wars? dozens, hundreds? Why is this one case supposed to be so damn special? Answer: Religion.

Religion was NOT just a subplot back in 1690, was it? It was a real moving impulse for both sides in Ireland back then. I think even you will agree to that much.

Well, it's 1690 in the Middle East RIGHT NOW.

Until you can get that much through your head you will never comprehend events.



To: Lou Weed who wrote (240214)8/29/2007 2:47:21 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
If the Canadians came roaming across the border and took your nice Vermont home from you Nadine, what would you do?

That analogy is not quite accurate. You forgot to say that the Canadians wouldn't actually "take her home", they just want to declare Vermont part of the Canadian Homeland, and the former US citizens can live and work there and be the non-Canadian citizens of the Canadian Homeland.