To: Greg or e who wrote (25435 ) 8/29/2007 6:29:53 PM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 You really have gotta be dumber than a bucket of nails. As a fanatical fundamentalist you would be expected to have some problems with objectivity and one would look for you to cast aspersions against humanists and freethinkers (as threatening your fragile emotional infantilism)...but your stupid attempt to make non-theism into communism is absolutely pathetic! By that logic an atheist could not be a capitalist (capitalism being the antitheses of communism, don't you see!)! Or (with your infantile sense of "logic") you could claim that HUMANISTS (such as Ingersoll) or Objectivists and rabid ANTI-COMMUNISTS such as Rand were communists (!!!) and therefore (through another leap of what passes between your two ears for thinking)...responsible for the atrocities of communism!! In reality (now put on your thinking cap for this one Greg or e!)...believing that God is not evidenced in the universe and that the ideation is conceptual fantasy rather than actuality simply means that such a person believes that God is not evidenced in the universe and that the ideation is conceptual fantasy rather than actuality!! Whether the person is a capitalist, communist, black, white, American, Asian, wealthy, poor, smart, dumb, or freckled does not ensue from the mere and singular notion which is necessary and sufficient to define atheism...The belief that God is not evidenced. Not believing in God DOES NOT entail a belief in Communism!! The accusation is picayune and ignorant and risible. The more I listen to your simpleton hate remarks against humanists such as Ingersoll and other great benefactors to humankind, I see a fanciful image of your face swim into my vision...and I need to look away! Faciem durum cacantis habes ! Communism, my dear struggling fellow, is a political philosophy which believes that the poor need to revolt against the capitalists in order to create equality (a classless society). I believe that Ingersoll claimed to be an agnostic but, in any event, neither belief makes him a communist. Indeed...most western atheists, agnostics, humanists, and other freethinkers are capitalists of one form or another and most repudiate communism. Indeed, the society preached by the mythic figure, Jesus, is often put forth as a perfect form of communism. How ironic, eh! :-) "All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." (Acts 2:44-45) "There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet." (Acts 4:34-37) An atheist can believe anything he/she chooses to believe about anything else in the world apart from the possibility of a Creator. Now please don't strain your pea brain trying to understand that last sentence. Just come back at me with some piece of crap that is weighing heavy in your fanatical sack of hate and fling it around with your usual disregard for people and reason! What are you studying in Sunday school this week, btw? Anything interesting you would like to share?