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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240235)	8/29/2007 5:14:51 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Isn't the same thing true for the non-Jewish citizens of Israel today? They are only allowed the rights that the local rulers give them? No, they have constitutional rights under the rule of law, which the Prime Minister cannot revoke at his whim. They are citizens. Maybe the PM can't revoke them, but the Jewish majority certainly can. The principle is the same as the Jew living under some non-Jewish Muslim government in Arabia 500 years ago. His rights were (likely) laid out in some form by the then ruling class, and those "rights" could be taken away (or enhanced) by the powers that be. It's the same for ANY minority group in any country where they are not the rulers. The rulers can enact laws which take away their rights (or grant them additional rights) at any point in time. We threw Japanese Americans in camps in WW2, and they were US citizens with constitutional rights. How about this - does Israel have the Jewishness or non-Jewishness of each of its citizens recorded somewhere? I imagine they do. And if so, what do you think they are going to use that list for??? To ensure the equality and rights of the non-Jews, perhaps? I live in a "Muslim country", ruled by Muslims, and I'm not Muslim. It's fine So you live in a Muslim country that does not implement Sharia. Good for them. Who made you the judge of what is sharia - are you a Muslim religious scholar? Methinks the people here will say they live under sharia law just fine. Who are you to tell them that (based on your interpertation of their religious texts) that they are doing it wrong? Do you think your opinion on all things Islamic is going to hold much weight among Muslims? That idea makes me laugh.... However, the sheikh still could toss you out tomorrow, which is more than the Israeli PM could do to Israeli Arabs. Yeah, I'm not even a citizen, I'm sure any government (other than the USA) that wanted to toss me out of their country could do so, without much trouble. However, using the same line of reasoning, the Jewish majority in Israel could easily pass various laws restricting the rights/movement/citizenship of their non-Jewish fellow citizens if they chose to do so. Fortunately for the non-Jews, they don't. Fortunately for me, the sheik hasn't decided to toss me out. What's the difference? My point is that my experience living as a non-Muslim in a "Muslim country" is quote positive, not the miserable second class situation that you make it out to be.