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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240347)	8/30/2007 12:59:31 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

Nadine, Israel could encourage this acceptance by the Arabs by dismantling all illegal settlements, getting inside the green line and becoming internationally LEGAL. That they don't do this is a big FU to the Arabs, and is only even possible due to the cover the US gives them. Supporting Israel is not in the national interest of the United States.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240347)	8/30/2007 1:06:34 PM
From: SARMAN	Respond to of 281500

It's about recognizing Israel inside ANY borders. Not as a hideous and hopefully temporary fact. But as a legitimate country already 60 years old. easy on the kool aid Nadine. Does Israel recognize the UN/internationally agree on Palestine with East Jerusalem as the capital? By now most of them under 20 have scarcely met an Israeli who isn't a soldier, and they all grew up being taught that martyrdom=death by killing Jews is the greatest glory they can aspire to. Geez, I wounder why? I think they project their anger on me because I'm pointing out a reality that they despa]erately need NOT to believe. The reality that you talk about exist only in your own mind.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240347)	8/30/2007 1:21:49 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Really? You agree with this? Then why do you call me names when I point out that this isn't a border conflict?>> Absolutely I agree with Mike on this. Land taken post 1967 is the point of my argument Nadine, not the state of Israel between '48 and '67. Maybe this is where you're getting confused with my sentiment? <<I think they project their anger on me because I'm pointing out a reality that they despa]erately need NOT to believe.>> Thank you for answering my question but if that's what you believe, you're waaaaay off the mark.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240347)	8/30/2007 2:10:08 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Maybe if you werent such an automatic vote for either bush or the likudniks or the neocons. You are a true believer in a world that is constantly changing. Personally i think your iraq stance has hurt your creds on israel/pal--not your original support buy your inablity to see the truth as it emerges. Some might say if you cant change your iraq view, then how accurate can you be in mideast? I think you add alot to the debate. I dont think you are a hater but i also cannot see opposing all moves toward peace in the area because of the bad history in the area.