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To: TimF who wrote (349158)	8/30/2007 6:39:35 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574864

"A big fraction is electric generation, but a lot is not." Most of it is, Tim. Pretty much all of the coal mined is used for power generation. A substantial fraction of natural gas is used for it. "Also the electricty generation can't quickly be replaced without disruption and a very large expense." That is the point, Tim. Much of the electrical generation equipment can be retrofitted to burn other fuels. So it doesn't have to be replaced. "I'm responding to those some. " Maybe. You certainly give the impression that you consider all of the ones favoring doing something about CO2 emissions to be in the same bag. If you are only responding to a minority, you need to make yourself clearer. "I think you underestimate the costs, overestimate the benefits, and overestimate how likely it is that we need major changes" Whatever. If nothing else, it is worth doing because it gets us off the hook of countries in the ME, along with other, not so savory countries. And, sooner or later, every country will have to deal with the issue of peak oil. There is no real reason to expect oil prices to drop significantly, and every reason to expect them to go up. The ideal time to start was 25 years ago. We didn't. Now is as good of a time as any.

To: TimF who wrote (349158)	10/2/2007 5:08:06 AM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1574864

Tim, I mainly disagree with the "we need massive changes now" crowd. The environmental groups have been infiltrated with commies of all kinds (with communism dead, Castro on his death bed, the rest of the thugs considerably less lovable), for whome the free market western economies are the enemy. For them "we need massive changes now" is an opportunity to do something that has eluded them for century - defeat of capitalism. But, OTOH, there are some normal people, (not ideologues, dreamers, weirdos or commies), people who know math, physics, engineers, who are now interested in the environment. So there may be hope that when XYZ is proposed, there are people who are capable of figuring out if XYZ is feasible, calculating how much effect XYZ would have and how much it would cost. Republicans brought cost benefit analysis to environmental regulations. Hopefully, whoever is in charge of future decisions (including global worming issues) will not throw it away. Joe