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To: epicure who wrote (40858)	9/1/2007 5:18:48 PM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541580

I think you are basically right, Iktomi, but you do seem to miss that he was very anti gay in all of the support he gave to his causes.. No gays in military gay marriage etc.He was very out spoken against gays. On one thread someone asked why these sexual incidents have been peculiar to Republicans.. I think because it is safer to be a Republican whose party is anti anything sexual as well as gays than to be a Democrat and liberal whose party is more accepting. Therefore he hid behind the political party he represented... Homophobes are the worst. In my therapy practice I found that those who harbored any subliminal fears about their sexuality were often the most vehement spokesperson against that group. Do you know the old expression methinks thou does protest too much ? A person who is truly happy with his sexual identity is more apt to believe in live and let live as long as it does not effect me.

To: epicure who wrote (40858)	9/1/2007 7:24:48 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541580

Iktomi; You know, I'm really sorry for Craig Wow! You are a way better person than I am. Have you seen the video of him lending his support to impeach Clinton? Makes him about the worst sort of Hypocrite in my mind. I feel sorry for his family - for him, not one bit! steve

To: epicure who wrote (40858)	9/1/2007 7:46:29 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541580

I agree. In Craig, I see the results of the repressive 50s and 60s, when he must have learned that all his urges were considered sick and unnatural. Some gays turned these judgments inward against themselves, and others, like Craig, outward, in some desperate attempt to remove himself from that "label". But my sympathy for him lies in a different area of the brain from that from which I judge certain things, whether that's a good thing or not. I want someone in power who can deal with all the nasty stuff life throws at him, and still make decisions that sublimate those things he knows are destructive to the behaviors he knows are the right ones. Or at least the honest ones. Life is filled with these conflicts: the professor tempted with the nubile student, or the bored housewife tempted by the attentive online flatterer, the president with the willing intern. DOn't we all KNOW what the right choices are? So I am sympathetic to his conflict, but not willing to allow him to be in a position of power over others when he can't rise above the internal conflict..

To: epicure who wrote (40858)	9/2/2007 10:36:25 AM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541580

I do not feel ONE bit sorry for Craig because of his total REGRESSIVE stance in Congress. He has one of the worst records when it comes to social, environmental and international issues.. An anchor on society and that TRUMPS his closeted gay lifestyle. That just happened to be his "Achilles' Heal".. I could care less about his placing HIMSELF in the closet over his sexuality thus requiring his "special service". Also to live in the closet just showed his lack of courage. That was HIS choice as was his regressive choices made against the best interests of this country which had far worse consequences. Regressives HAVE to start taking responsibility for their actions..