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To: Sam who wrote (240529)	9/1/2007 5:32:24 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 281500

To: Sam who wrote (240529)	9/1/2007 5:47:24 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Is Anbar another "tipping point"? Who really believes in "democracy"? I would say that the millions of Iraqis who turned out to vote when the insurgents were making very believable threats to shoot them for voting certainly believed in democracy, or maybe 'hoped' would be a better term. Bush didn't invent the pictures of Iraqis weeping for joy that they had lived to see the day when voting wasn't a humiliating sham where you had to pretend to love Saddam Hussein. The Iraqi war has been several things, and has morphed into several other things, and may morph again. Peaceful areas have turned violent and vice-versa. It's a complicated situation and will have many tipping points on its way to a resolution, one way or another. To disbelieve in evident significant changes just because previous significant changes didn't put an end to all the fighting is pretty silly.