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To: Elroy who wrote (240589)9/2/2007 4:03:04 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
This application policy is a natural result of the US value that all men are created equal.

Not really. It is a natural result of the US having a lot of land they wanted to claim and develop, historically needing a larger labor pool to profit from it, and having to attract immigrants to get it. If the US really had the "value that all men are created equal" then we wouldn't have had slavery, we wouldn't have had Jim Crow, and we wouldn't have stolen so much land from the Native Americans we found here, just to mention a few little facts of US history.

This application policy is the result of the Israeli value that Jews are somehow different from the rest of us, and the difference is significant.

As I said earlier, the "difference" is that people who are Jewish have been frequently discriminated against and killed because of that fact. If Israel were, say, the size of Australia or the US, but still a refuge and a voice for Jewish people, then it wouldn't face the same necessities.

this is a fundamental distinction in the "values" of the two countries.

To reduce the "values" of the US and Israel to this one policy difference that can be explained by reference to history and geography is remarkably superficial and ridiculous. Once again, you are ignoring context and therefore falsify the truth while pretending that you are "merely" being factual. That is what BushBackers do with a vengeance. I think you are capable of better than that, aren't you?