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To: Dale Baker who wrote (40926)	9/3/2007 12:07:56 AM
From: Sam	Respond to of 541515

“No one here accepts to be ruled ever again by the other,” Kosrat Ali, Kurdistan’s vice president, told me. “If you get all the American forces to occupy all of the towns and the cities of Iraq, you might be able to centralize Iraq again. That is the only way.” Otherwise, “centralized rule is finished in Iraq.” Exactly. And continuing to try to do so will only continue the bloodbath. In this respect, it is the opposite problem of Vietnam. There, we were trying to divide a country that shouldn't have been divided, while here we are trying to keep united a country that shouldn't be united (except very loosely, as Biden et al and now Friedman have maintained).

To: Dale Baker who wrote (40926)	9/3/2007 2:21:27 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541515

where women could walk unveiled The other ideals all sound normal, but why does he want Iraqi women to walk unveiled? Many Iraqi women want to be veiled. It's like France imagining a USA beach where women can sunbathe topless (as French women do).

To: Dale Baker who wrote (40926)	9/3/2007 4:23:19 AM
From: RMF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541515

Kurdistan has pretty much been autonomous since 1991. They've had their own army since before then, but it was our creation of the "no-fly zones" after the 1991 War that solidified their control. NOW they want to gain control of the oil fields in their territory to assure their economic sustainability. In some ways they are our proxies in our attempts to undermine Iran. In other ways they are our protectorates in their disputes with the Turks. Either way they are our PAWNS and we will have to maintain a troop presence there LONG into the future.