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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: philv who wrote (16264)	9/3/2007 11:02:05 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Phil > I know it sounds crazy to you, but perhaps you give too much credit to the sanity and common sense of this administration. You have said that before and I must reiterate that I have no regard for this administration whatsoever. IMO, they are all war criminals who have, in addition, debased the US Constitution and, indeed, the good name of the US. The reason I say they won't do it is because they can't. Sure they can drop bombs and make a huge mess in Iran but that's not the way to win a war -- and they know it. Yes, out of desperation, they could do anything but I do not perceive they are that desperate to destroy what is left of the US in an even greater war than the wars that already they can't win in Iraq and Afghanistan. > Since then the US has solidified its base of support, including all of Europe, not just Great Britain, which includes the once hated France, and also a now compliant Canada among others. But not for war. In fact, the UK is pulling out of Iraq right now to Bush's intense displeasure -- and that's after Gordon Brown embraced and patted him. > There may in fact be a hope that Iran will completely fold and dismantle their nuclear programs That they were making nuclear weapons is not their idea but the Zionists'. Iran has reiterated that its intent is for the peaceful use of nuclear processes and they will not cease that, come what may. That's why I say if the US and Israel are serious about all their threats they may as well implement them because in time it will be a lot harder when Iran is even better prepared than it is at the moment. > And so the preparations, rhetoric and pressure keeps building on Iran, and one never knows when words will result in a military accident or "coincident" which will serve as an excuse for a broader war Indeed, that's what the Zionists are hoping and praying for -- an "act of God", like 9/11. In other words, a false flag op, blamed on someone who didn't do it, this time Iran, but which enables the Zionists to implement their nefarious plans. > Bush has made specific statements and threats. He must follow up or prove forever that his words are empty. And that is not in the Bush style I take your word for that. As far as I know, the most he has said is that all options are on the table. The actual threats have been made by Zionists. > the almost universal agreement among the US leadership of both parties about their commitment and solidarity with Israel. Two sides of the same coin -- the shekel. > Iran is the number one threat to the State of Israel as often stated by Israeli leadership. If not Iran, then Syria, if not Syria, then Saudi, if not Saudi then Russia and so on. The state of Israel can exist only when everyone is in a state of war for the simple reason that Israel cannot and will not address its own problems. That's why I said elsewhere that Israel is happy to fight until the last American which means, in fact, that the present US dilemma over Iran is a watershed for Israel because if the US backs down then Israel is in serious trouble.

To: philv who wrote (16264)	9/3/2007 9:20:57 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Iran's Ahmadinejad has 'proof' US won't attack breitbart.com >>President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has sought to justify his confidence the United States will not attack Iran, saying the proof comes from his mathematical skills as an engineer and faith in God, the press reported on Monday. Ahmadinejad told academics in a speech that elements inside Iran were pressing for compromise in the nuclear standoff with the West over fears the United States could launch a military strike. "In some discussions I told them 'I am an engineer and I am examining the issue. They do not dare wage war against us and I base this on a double proof'," he said in the speech on Sunday, reported by the reformist Etemad Melli and Kargozaran newspapers. "I tell them: 'I am an engineer and I am a master in calculation and tabulation. "I draw up tables. For hours, I write out different hypotheses. I reject, I reason. I reason with planning and I make a conclusion. They cannot make problems for Iran.'" Ahmadinejad has long expressed pride in his academic prowess. He holds a PhD on transport engineering and planning from Tehran's Science and Technology University and is the author several of scientific papers. The deeply religious president said his second reason was: "I believe in what God says." "God says that those who walk in the path of righteousness will be victorious. What reason can you have for believing God will not keep this promise." Washington has never ruled out taking military action against Tehran, and its tone has sharpened again over the past week with President George W. Bush warning that Iran's nuclear programme could lead to a "nuclear holocaust." Ahmadinejad said that "God willing" one day he would write his memoirs to put the record straight. French President Nicolas Sarkozy has already warned that Iran risks being bombed if the nuclear crisis is not resolved. Ahmadinejad last week brushed off the comments which he said were due to his French counterpart's inexperience. <<